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Metropolis wrote:.. but Fruity Loops stock plugins ain't exactly going to help me sound like Ed Rush and Optical, are they?
Does Logic come equipped with interesting delay plugins?

You'll be surprised about the quality of the FL studio plug ins. They've gone a long way to prove that it is a lot more professional than it used to back when it actually was called fruity loops.

Metropolis wrote:Why's chrous and reverb on the same chain a bad thing? Is it acceptable to use delay on your sub bass?

I think he was talking about the white noise being on the chain.

Metropolis wrote:Is it acceptable to use delay on your sub bass?

Not really, this will just cause phasing and make your sub bass weaker

FL plugins are a bit plain and basic. I doubt many professional dubstep producers use them.
..and if it was less fiddly to automate them with LFOs and easier to get warm sustained feedback.

oWLinDaylight wrote:

Metropolis wrote:Why's chrous and reverb on the same chain a bad thing? Is it acceptable to use delay on your sub bass?

I think he was talking about the white noise being on the chain.

I'm sure I used to have a delay plugin that had a signal generator mixed into it?

Metropolis wrote:Is it acceptable to use delay on your sub bass?

Not really, this will just cause phasing and make your sub bass weaker

I thought so too.

bassinine wrote:on bass, short 20-40ms delay with a good bit of feedback.

Metropolis wrote:FL plugins are a bit plain and basic. I doubt many professional dubstep producers use them.
..and if it was less fiddly to automate them with LFOs and easier to get warm sustained feedback.

Put your delay on a send then add an effects chain too it to make it less plain. A delay is simply the reproduction of an audio signal some time after its received. The delay in the song you posted has effects on top of the delay. Something like tape delay w/ saturation, flutter, ping pong, or drift; all of which btw are features of the vst I posted earlier.

oWLinDaylight wrote:

Metropolis wrote:FL plugins are a bit plain and basic. I doubt many professional dubstep producers use them.
..and if it was less fiddly to automate them with LFOs and easier to get warm sustained feedback.

Put your delay on a send then add an effects chain too it to make it less plain. A delay is simply the reproduction of an audio signal some time after its received. The delay in the song you posted has effects on top of the delay. Something like tape delay w/ saturation, flutter, ping pong, or drift; all of which btw are features of the vst I posted earlier.

Nice one. Are those effects specific to that particular plugin?

Metropolis wrote:FL plugins are a bit plain and basic. I doubt many professional dubstep producers use them.
..and if it was less fiddly to automate them with LFOs and easier to get warm sustained feedback.

I'd bet my left testicle that some FL using Dubstep producers do use some of the stock plug-ins.

You'll find a lot of tape delay emulators that have saturation, and ping pong is very common. If you want to get really interesting and complex delayed sounds going your best bet is to send your audio to an fx chain that starts with a stock delay on 100% wet, then you can add saturation, compression, or any other effect you want and you're not limited by which fx any specific delay vst has.

B-Frank wrote:

Metropolis wrote:FL plugins are a bit plain and basic. I doubt many professional dubstep producers use them.
..and if it was less fiddly to automate them with LFOs and easier to get warm sustained feedback.

I'd bet my left testicle that some FL using Dubstep producers do use some of the stock plug-ins.

I want names!

You'll find a lot of tape delay emulators that have saturation, and ping pong is very common. If you want to get really interesting and complex delayed sounds going your best bet is to send your audio to an fx chain that starts with a stock delay on 100% wet, then you can add saturation, compression, or any other effect you want and you're not limited by which fx any specific delay vst has.

I'm not sure if FL or Soundforge has them though. Do you mean having the delay on a send channel?

i Pogrom my delay's With Midi

IMO, the thing about digital delays (in opposed to digital distortion and digital tube emulation) is that they're always perfect by definition. All they do is repeat the original audio source in a defined manner. And so, personally loving complete control (!) over my tunes, I love using Delay Designer which comes stock with Logic, you can make it do anything. Set taps, cutoff, even feedback.

How would you go about getting your drums to sound like the ones at the start of this tune?


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accordionfan wrote:i Pogrom my delay's With Midi

extremesociety wrote:IMO, the thing about digital delays (in opposed to digital distortion and digital tube emulation) is that they're always perfect by definition. All they do is repeat the original audio source in a defined manner. And so, personally loving complete control (!) over my tunes, I love using Delay Designer which comes stock with Logic, you can make it do anything. Set taps, cutoff, even feedback.

Does Logic have any plugins like FL has Hardcore?

Reason 4

Always been wary of Reason because you have to use it purely, no third party plugins etc.

Lol so hard mothafuckas wanna fine me