it could be avant garde...it maybe...some of it...
but avant garde is many things...
I'm a fan of the avant garde - If you are not moving forward than what are you doing?
Even examining the past can be a way of moving forward - if you are discovering something new within it.
Also - when you are talking about a historical body of work - in order for the next generation to move forward
Do they have to be knowledgable about what is already there...?
Futurists would say no - they say burn all the libraries and go with what is relevent right now.
Even if that is repeting what has been done.
So is there a difference between artist and witness, the artist being free and the witness being subjegated? Should we all refuse to be witness?
That seems impossible, in ignoring the current state of machine...
Artforms in vacuum - validating the seminal nature of existance, as not a communication? not a charged reciprocity...an indifferent, yet ambitious futility...?
expect it to fail - and fly straight into the ground
bright maroon wrote:it could be avant garde...it maybe...some of it...
but avant garde is many things...
I'm a fan of the avant garde - If you are not moving forward than what are you doing?
Even examining the past can be a way of moving forward - if you are discovering something new within it.
Also - when you are talking about a historical body of work - in order for the next generation to move forward
Do they have to be knowledgable about what is already there...?
Futurists would say no - they say burn all the libraries and go with what is relevent right now.
Even if that is repeting what has been done.
So is there a difference between artist and witness, the artist being free and the witness being subjegated? Should we all refuse to be witness?
That seems impossible, in ignoring the current state of machine...
Artforms in vacuum - validating the seminal nature of existance, as not a communication? not a charged reciprocity...an indifferent, yet ambitious futility...?
expect it to fail - and fly straight into the ground
That all makes sense and provides a strong point; you have to observe the past without necessarily repeating it. If you happen to strike something clearly novel, for a time it can be "avant garde" because people don't know what it is (being truely novel), but in the repetition of the novel act lies disdain and derogation of the masses for having repeated it. I see it in these threads all the time (not that there's anything wrong with that).
Thanks for the thoughtful input.
Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:32 pm
by Samādhi
the question should'nt be: what is considered music, what is considered art, what is considered avant garde...?
the question should be: in what kind of society do we want to live and how can we achieve it? and how can we use music and art as a way of communication.