fuck off, massive back cat, CAN be lyrical (when he wants to be), has been relevant his entire career. you cant deny it. yes hes shit, but the work hes put in gives him that kind of power.
BUT it would only be is he tragically passed all of a sudden.
no
lil wayne can fuck off
really, you even say he's shit :/ shit stays shit even with golden grills
nah man GZA/RZA
shit now, but you cant par the carter or carter 2 (and maybe 3, maybe)
and all his early mixtapes.
once again, only on death, hes not even on the scale while hes alive.
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:49 pm
by magma
Liam92 wrote:Ghostface
I keep weighing GK up and then backing out of posting... it's the slightly thin solo catalogue that lets him down, I reckon - and it's hard to choose just one of the Wu to take on their own - but I honestly can't think of many MCs I'd rather make a record with than Ghostface.
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:50 pm
by magma
Nevalo wrote:
mIrReN wrote:
Nevalo wrote:@pedro
fuck off, massive back cat, CAN be lyrical (when he wants to be), has been relevant his entire career. you cant deny it. yes hes shit, but the work hes put in gives him that kind of power.
BUT it would only be is he tragically passed all of a sudden.
no
lil wayne can fuck off
really, you even say he's shit :/ shit stays shit even with golden grills
nah man GZA/RZA
shit now, but you cant par the carter or carter 2 (and maybe 3, maybe)
and all his early mixtapes.
once again, only on death, hes not even on the scale while hes alive.
2Pac made Brenda's Got A Baby
Lil Wayne made How To Love
Now GTFO with this bullshit.
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:51 pm
by Sexual_Chocolate
2pac was (and is) well over rated.
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:51 pm
by kidshuffle
Nev is right about Wayne. If he died he'd be seen as this generations Pac - like it or not.
The best mc is Scarface. Shame on all you for not even mentioning him.
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:52 pm
by dickman69
those shit west coast beats 2pac had tho i would honestly rather have mac dre or e40 etc... than 2pac rapping on them
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:52 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
Lil' Wayne is literally a moron.
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:53 pm
by teamhobson
Nevalo wrote:only on death
Not even m8
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:54 pm
by kidshuffle
E40 is also a good shout
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:55 pm
by Sexual_Chocolate
rayman612 wrote:those shit west coast beats 2pac had tho i would honestly rather have mac dre or e40 etc... than 2pac rapping on them
e40s a good shout.
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:55 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
kidshuffle wrote:The best mc is Scarface. Shame on all you for not even mentioning him.
Scarface is up there but he just falls short sometimes.
Jadakiss back in the day had the potential, and barking aside, DMX was once on top.
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:58 pm
by Sexual_Chocolate
youre calling out wayne, then say DMX is a good shout. uppercut yourself lol
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:00 pm
by hubb
Most of the really big names like jay-z or nas or tupac that are relatively good artists all brought something genuinely bad and detrimental to the rap table and made terrible music at times that still influenced a lot of people, shouldn't that count as a huge minus?
They get away with taking some chances that would ruin other peoples careers because they cross over and sell some shit to your little sister( and so on).
People just below them on the public radar, might not have made outright terrible shit and I personally feel that should count a lot more than that a mum might know about jayz. Like Andre 3000, Raekwon, Doom, Planet Asia, Redman....
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:01 pm
by magma
Nevalo wrote:2pac was (and is) well over rated.
He's definitely over-rated, but he's also the best. And I say this as someone who spent the entirety of the 90s and most of the 00s completely avoiding him because he was so over-hyped due to his death. He really was worth the hype, but probably not for the reasons he got it.
Wayne is a GREAT of the game and I'd call myself a LW fan before a 2Pac fan right now, but he's a pop act through and through - everything's watered down and given that gimmicky voice. 2Pac veered from Thug Life anthems to moments where it sounded like he was channeling Chuck D or Jesse Jackson... his breadth is what makes him a great; Biggie didn't have it and Wayne certainly doesn't have it. When 2Pac told you something, you believed it. When Wayne raps, you chuckle.
Eminem would be a problem. There are arguments for him being the GOAT anyway, but his songwriting has been awful at times. He's a rap-for-rap's-sake rapper, rhyming to be called the most talented wordsmith - 2Pac spat thinking he could change the world.
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:01 pm
by SCope13
Sonika wrote:Immortal Technique
please god tell me you're fucking trolling
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:01 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
Nevalo wrote:youre calling out wayne, then say DMX is a good shout. uppercut yourself lol
It's Dark And Hell Is Hot is better than anything Wayne has ever put out.
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:02 pm
by dickman69
hubb wrote:People just below them on the public radar, might not have made outright terrible shit and I personally feel that should count a lot more than that a mum might know about jayz. Like Andre 3000, Raekwon, Doom, Planet Asia, Redman....
Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:03 pm
by Forum
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Re: Who is the G.O.A.T. M.C.?
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:04 pm
by mIrReN
seriously what did I miss the past years that made Wayne so big lol all he shouts is yeah yeah
and carter and carter II and some mixtapes (arguably)
now idc for 2pac and what he might've done but really waynes death would make him famous? For what? His drugabuse? The crap he made the past years? YEAH YEAH
I'm in this generation and could not care for his death tbf (cold I know), and most people I know have the same sentiment
this probably means I'm a "backpacker"
