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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:15 pm
by q23
I will send an email right to the artist or their label in most cases. In their own best interest, they SHOULD tell me if it is legit or not, and usually they will point me in the right direction for the actual release.

Sometimes I have even received free sheist for being cool about asking them so I know I am supporting the real deal.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:31 pm
by seckle
this thread actually does more bad than good. all you're doing is advertising and directly linking thousands of people to the very products that you're trying to get them not to buy.

the problem here is the distributors. white label bootlegging starts and ends with them. shops are the secondary problem.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:43 pm
by q23
Djin wrote: But what about the jamaican guys whos tracks are sampled, accapellaed up, the unnamed singers who probably aren't even aware that someone is sampling or accapellaing their track to use on their own production, it kinda smacks of double standards and makes me question why those things are used in the first place, maybe it would be good to get some better practices of reference and possibly even payment on tracks that make money?
If that is a double standard, then what about the Winstons, or James Brown. Each of their drummers have been sampled sans royalties so many times it almost can't be measured. I have looked at the database for cleared samples on the amen break, and there is no way it encompasses even .0001% of the usage. These people should by rights be do-deca-quintenzillion-bajillion-cajillionaires.

Not to mention house music and hip hop ganking every single 60s and 70s soul, funk, disco, and R&B sample that ever existed.

The list goes on and on.....

Recycled music is not a new thing by any means or stretch of the imagination.

Whats right or wrong is a huge gray area, and left open to discussion between the original copyright owner (notice I did NOT say original artist), the sampling artist, CARP (copyright arbitration royalty panel), Harry Fox Agency, and the scumbag lawyers they all hire who will then make a buck off the deal as well.