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TNT wrote:

Vonboyage wrote:I dont have a problem with all these dark tunes.

Theres eqully enough light / bouncy / skippy / ambient / melodica / industial type tunes to balance it all out.

I can see the sound slighty changing also, producers becoming alot more inventive.

THIS^

allow the nit picking init- Dubstep as a whole is the most diverse genre of any i think..
theres plenty of diff types of beats coming from all angles, to suit everyones particulars...

It is and that's why a lot of us love it.

But are big DJ's representing the whole variety or just sticking to the safest biggest most obvious bangers?

And if the big DJ's (who represent the scene and introduce a lot of people to it as well as setting the standard that other DJ's aspire to) are just playing one strand of dubstep, how long is it going to stay diverse?

ha, this threads gonna struggle now, the topics slowly changed from is dubstep too dark and masculine? to are DJs representing a full spectrum of the stuff? or sticking to the guaranteed dancefloor mashers?

Dont think anyone is going to read all 17 pages to find that out, so were getting lots of people adding in "no, theres plenty other stuff out there" which isnt fitting too well into the conversation

Slothrop wrote:Are big DJ's representing the whole variety or just sticking to the safest biggest most obvious bangers?

Is what this thread (and article) should have been called...

Misk wrote:

thesynthesist wrote:I'm white and masculine...

And you know what they say...

Once you dark, you never go bark...

they meaning "you"

I never went bark, if thats what you're implying...

thesynthesist wrote:

Slothrop wrote:Are big DJ's representing the whole variety or just sticking to the safest biggest most obvious bangers?

Is what this thread (and article) should have been called...

It is now

Diss04 wrote:something random just reminded me of a blackdown article on pitchforkmedia where he wrote about how dubstep was becoming too dark and masculine and i was just sitting in the sun and thinking.. that guy couldnt be more right. now i love a dark, twisted, banger as much as the next guy but maybe more thats a bit lighter? anyways just my opinion..

sam

i dont think theres such thing as too dark or too evil. but about the masculine thing;
there are only a few girls i know that really like their dstep, and i wouldnt mind there being alot more ladies at dstep nights, it gets a little bit homoerotic every now and then, my ex-girlfriend didnt like dubstep and i think it wuda been mint if i cuda had a skank with her to the bass that is, but unfortunately no that isnt the crack. with the night we start in october i am seriously considering a "ladies get in for free" thing going down, cos i dont want it to turn into a scene from "Fisting Fun 9"..............

J.D.B. wrote: i am seriously considering a "ladies get in for free" thing going down, cos i dont want it to turn into a scene from "Fisting Fun 9"..............

Best quote in fackin ages.

Ladies skank for nowt

Shonky wrote:
Best quote in fackin ages.

Ladies skank for nowt

i thank you sir

More Lover's Rock vibes needed, eh?

not quite lovers rock, i was thinking more kinda victorian ballroom dancing

waltz-step......

J.D.B. wrote:not quite lovers rock, i was thinking more kinda victorian ballroom dancing

waltz-step......

Done and done.

fuck

who got there first like?

All about the ladies-excuse-me (something I end up saying a lot before the bouncers come over)

one thing i do want to address is that i always find it funny that dark/aggressive/hard vibes are considered "masculine", while lighter/prettier/vocally stuff is considered "feminine".

i think it's a generalization that goes deeper than just musical style (the whole image of masculine as aggressive and feminine and light and nice...), but it rears its head in any talk of musical subgenrification.

i know plenty of women who like really rough bangin' music and not so much the lighter end of things, and i know plenty of guys who prefer the deeper stuff and aren't really fans of the harder end of the music spectrum.

so i guess what i am saying is, can we stop gender-identifying music? music does not have gender, and appeals to people on an entirely subjective level.

and i think that's at the heart of this whole worry too. people like what they like. and yes, the bigger names can forcefeed the styles they like, but the availability of the music, as its internet presence widens, keeps showing me that people are bringing all kinds of styles and perspectives, and it will grow and mutate and there will be good and bad, but ultimately, the listener will like what they like. and ultimately, we have little control over that.

i can understand wanting to hold onto something that so many of you were there for at the beginning. i respect the originators and all the people who have a longer history with the sound than i do. but it's like any community or music...once more people become involved, eventually it becomes its own monster, and you can add your own perspective into the sound and into the mix, but trying to control its direction becomes futile and restrictive. then you end up with people putting boundaries on what the sound is, instead of thinking what the sound could be, and genre sizan abound. that's a pretty dystopic vision to me, and i would rather open up and look toward what's good and just ignore what's not (and that, is just my subjective opinion anyway).

ok...end rant. gawd i am long-winded when i am avoiding work.

*edited because my use of the word "ultimately" was redundant and annoying, even to myself*

yeh mate your totally right i like what youre saying, but the stereotypes that exist, well all stereotypes for that matter, are always founded on something, i would say most lads i know are into their heavier music more than the lasses and most lasses i know are into their lighter music more than the lads, but that doesnt mean all lasses like light and all men like heavy. and you cant deny that there isnt many lasses at dubstep gigs-its a fact

Here's a tip...

Find an all girls college... Preferably a stuffy, religious one (In Boston, we would go to Wellesley, which was a hike out of the city)...

Flyer there, and hang out there. Meet some hot ladies. Then tell them that you are going to rent a bus and bring it up the night of the party, and ride as many girls who want to go.

There are your ladies. And if you followed the religious college tip, they will be all the more eager, also.

Worked for us.

edit: Did I mention that girls really DO like Dubstep? maybe get a jug of earplugs and dress up the joint a little, tell the crew to take a bath... (i.e. maybe its not the bass thats scaring them away, haha)

J.D.B. wrote:yeh mate your totally right i like what youre saying, but the stereotypes that exist, well all stereotypes for that matter, are always founded on something, i would say most lads i know are into their heavier music more than the lasses and most lasses i know are into their lighter music more than the lads, but that doesnt mean all lasses like light and all men like heavy. and you cant deny that there isnt many lasses at dubstep gigs-its a fact

All the girls i know love party music when they hear it. As do most poeple.

GETMEH

thesynthesist wrote:Here's a tip...

Find an all girls college... Preferably a stuffy, religious one (In Boston, we would go to Wellesley, which was a hike out of the city)...

Flyer there, and hang out there. Meet some hot ladies. Then tell them that you are going to rent a bus and bring it up the night of the party, and ride as many girls who want to go.

There are your ladies. And if you followed the religious college tip, they will be all the more eager, also.

Worked for us.

edit: Did I mention that girls really DO like Dubstep? maybe get a jug of earplugs and dress up the joint a little, tell the crew to take a bath... (i.e. maybe its not the bass thats scaring them away, haha)

What?

thesynthesist wrote:Here's a tip...

Find an all girls college... Preferably a stuffy, religious one (In Boston, we would go to Wellesley, which was a hike out of the city)...

Flyer there, and hang out there. Meet some hot ladies. Then tell them that you are going to rent a bus and bring it up the night of the party, and ride as many girls who want to go.

There are your ladies. And if you followed the religious college tip, they will be all the more eager, also.

Worked for us.

edit: Did I mention that girls really DO like Dubstep? maybe get a jug of earplugs and dress up the joint a little, tell the crew to take a bath... (i.e. maybe its not the bass thats scaring them away, haha)

fucking brilliant.

thesynthesist wrote:Here's a tip...

Find an all girls college... Preferably a stuffy, religious one (In Boston, we would go to Wellesley, which was a hike out of the city)...

Flyer there, and hang out there. Meet some hot ladies. Then tell them that you are going to rent a bus and bring it up the night of the party, and ride as many girls who want to go.

There are your ladies. And if you followed the religious college tip, they will be all the more eager, also.

Worked for us.

edit: Did I mention that girls really DO like Dubstep? maybe get a jug of earplugs and dress up the joint a little, tell the crew to take a bath... (i.e. maybe its not the bass thats scaring them away, haha)

Sounds like a scene from an '80s teen flick!

You lot do things differently over t'other side of the pond.

All about nubile nun-step from now on.