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Screech wrote:I think they're not bad producers at all. Some good tunes.
Except for this little gem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg9M0vzBQGI
Yes also treu. But believe me most of the times it's the people who can't reach the next level themselves who start bitching. Not every big producer has his fame going to the head. C'mon kinda simple isn't it?Paradigm X wrote:IMOFreq Juggler wrote:Simple explanation:
Bedroom producer gets fame in the underground. He s picked up by a label. The producer becomes famous and well known. His tunes are now around the world and alot of people are listning to them. Then the underground producers start complaining cos he went "commercial" and "their" precious underground music is becoming not so underground anymore. So they start hating on the artist and calling him a sell out. Actually he's really making nice heavy tunes but nobody in the underground wants to hear that because he's " commercial".
In all actuallity most of them are just jealous because he's making a living out of something they can't reach.
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Prod makes tunes, gets picked up becomes big
Starts doing loads of dj gigs to make some money
Realises the wobblers/lowest common denominator tunes work better 'in the dance' B2B less time in studio to make tunes
Starts making more generic tunes for reasons above
People moan because his older stuff was deeper/more experimental/less generic
Fame goes to head so ignores/dismisses everyone as 'haters'
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The entirety of electronic music is derivitive.ylem wrote:They are derivative... they can make well produced music, but they dont push the envelope imo
This already happened. It just wasn't you.Osky wrote:possibly the fact they are going to make a dubstep song for rihanna? tbh i probably wud for the money, also to win over rihannas heart......then beat the fuck out of her
nah, all good, was being devils advocate to a certain extent. Dilinja springs to mind in my above post. its not all jealousy is what i was getting at. whatever, youre quite right listen to what you like, make what you like and balls to the rest. just a shame you dont get that many nights repping the deeper stuff...Freq Juggler wrote:Yes also treu. But believe me most of the times it's the people who can't reach the next level themselves who start bitching. Not every big producer has his fame going to the head. C'mon kinda simple isn't it?
There was and always will be underground vs commercial. To be onest i dpon't give a fuck. If chase and status make a nice tune, i listnen. If they bring out wack shit i won't. Same goes for every underground head. i'm getting pretty sick of all the discussions about " ow no he went famous now he's gonna make bullshit music".
C'mon guys, make music and listnen to what YOU like. FUCK the opinion of the next underground superproducer who knows best...
Ow and one more thing. I know some bigger producers and believe me the statement you made above is just complete bullshit when it comes to them. They are still down to earth and are still making nice tunes in the style they always did. For the producers who do let fame get to their heads, i say fuck em
indeed just any next pete waterman biznesssub7 wrote:Screech wrote:I think they're not bad producers at all. Some good tunes.
Except for this little gem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg9M0vzBQGI
Holy shit. ....
Holy shit, I had no idea they put out stuff like this.......well if you want to do it 365 24/7 I guess this could happen....fuckin' wow man.....
That's such a cop-out, though. What you said basically equates to saying 'they're factually amazing and people don't actually hate them, they all love them, because they're just that good, but they're jealous of that, so they pretend to hate it'. Music doesn't work that, m'boy. People can dislike things you like for very legit reasons.Freq Juggler wrote:Simple explanation:
Bedroom producer gets fame in the underground. He s picked up by a label. The producer becomes famous and well known. His tunes are now around the world and alot of people are listning to them. Then the underground producers start complaining cos he went "commercial" and "their" precious underground music is becoming not so underground anymore. So they start hating on the artist and calling him a sell out. Actually he's really making nice heavy tunes but nobody in the underground wants to hear that because he's " commercial".
In all actuallity most of them are just jealous because he's making a living out of something they can't reach.
Explained. Next subject.
nice example proves point, plus ive been on this forum for like a week n a half i doubt i wuld have had a chance to see past threads about it etc. thanks alot for keeping it about their production techniques doere.mark wrote:Erm where??? Ive prooved that the Eastern Jam/Saxon Baass is NOT Brutal Electro - even made audio examples demonstrating so. Ive posted this enough times. Wish people would stop saying all they use is 'Brutal Electro', when its not.68.artist wrote:besides them using a preset
If u even listened closely to the mid-range on both tracks they each have different acoustic qualities, its not even the same patch in both those tracks. I will hunt out the audio comparison again, to proove this. Anythingto stop peoples ignorance to this fact.
edit:
my pedantic comparison:
http://www22.zippyshare.com/v/87772245/file.html
lol. Its not even like theyve opened the patch and changed it slightly, theres completely different acoustic quality to the two.
and i 4t brutal electro sounded like... not much like it didnt wanna get slaughtered 4 gettin it wrong68.artist wrote:Thought I'd ask in production section cuz most people i knw whu seem to dislike them 4 doing dubstep are producers.
what do people actually not like about them?
Their great D&B producers and catchy dubstep producers!
