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nowaysj wrote:(and posting up alpaca's being licked by two Japanese schoolgirls)

That was a direct reference to u, let's have it.

Damn this thread got nasty -> lol

honestly to me, the examples provided sounded distorted after the "mastering."

shit went so fast that i had no time to get some popcorn

Project EX wrote:shit went so fast that i had no time to get some popcorn

Don't worry give it a week and we'll have someone new deciding to start up their mastering service, maybe they'll be a little more polite to their potential client-base, but then again.....

lowpass wrote:

Project EX wrote:shit went so fast that i had no time to get some popcorn

Don't worry give it a week and we'll have someone new deciding to start up their mastering service, maybe they'll be a little more polite to their potential client-base, but then again.....

I know its collective that set this barn a'burning, but u uk's are so sensitive.

Canadians and Alpacas bite.
You want to see something brutal have a peak at Toronto Jungle: http://www.torontojungle.com/forum/foru ... d0bd8f.jpg[/img]

That's gotta be one of the scariest mouths i've ever seen

whoaaha didn't check for a bit and came back to this huge alpacaey rape scene! Just a couple things...

On your site's FAQ: What should I do to prepare my file?
Insure you leave plenty of headroom (No Peaks) in your source file by lowering the volume of your overall mix so that no peaks are present.

Generally headroom doesn't have to do with just not redlining, but there being sufficient space for the ME to work with - at least 3db traditionally. Maybe note that and save yourself a bit of time.

I've been in the web firm game for over a decade now, owned firms and have dealt with some extremely ridiculous clients. I really don't think any of the things asked in here warranted going ape-shit over. If you are going to try and conduct business while being unprofessional about it, don't be surprised by the negative responses. Also when offering such a high skilled service as mastering, it may be a good move to make sure your myspace that says you've been producing for under a year isn't linked right below

You need a firm base in audio engineering over a decade or so to get any respect in mastering.
It is one of the most important aspects and then you need a room which is purpose designed.

This is the minimum.

cheers

Hey builder...

lowpass wrote:

yellowhighlighter wrote:tbh i don't know why everybody here gave you such a hard time. you just posted a thread saying you were offering a mastering service. no big deal really.

builderbeats wrote:Thanks everybody for taking the time reply. I know how busy you all must be.

builderbeats wrote: Unlike most here, I actually own my software. Why don't you all post your license keys as proof of purchase...lol.

actually fuck you.

Haha exactly, he just insulted near enough everyone on the forum by saying that nobody owns a single license to their software,

for a fair few people I guess he's right, but when I've just shelled out over a grand for a new setup including a legit version of Logic 9 it can make you a bit pissy.

Maybe he doesn't own his own software and wants our keys to he can unlock his own cracked software

Way to distance your market

Dude its all part of his awesome marketing strategy.

step 1:
Don't bother to learn anything about mastering

step 2:
make a website, and be vague

step 3:
insult your market

step 4:
disrespect the true mastering engineers in the world.

step 5:
sit back and wait for all the business to roll in

maybe this was the same plan for his successfull, rather failed web design business.

hahaha!

collective wrote:Hey builder...

lowpass wrote:

yellowhighlighter wrote:tbh i don't know why everybody here gave you such a hard time. you just posted a thread saying you were offering a mastering service. no big deal really.

builderbeats wrote:Thanks everybody for taking the time reply. I know how busy you all must be.

builderbeats wrote: Unlike most here, I actually own my software. Why don't you all post your license keys as proof of purchase...lol.

actually fuck you.

Haha exactly, he just insulted near enough everyone on the forum by saying that nobody owns a single license to their software,

for a fair few people I guess he's right, but when I've just shelled out over a grand for a new setup including a legit version of Logic 9 it can make you a bit pissy.

Maybe he doesn't own his own software and wants our keys to he can unlock his own cracked software

Way to distance your market

Dude its all part of his awesome marketing strategy.

step 1:
Don't bother to learn anything about mastering

step 2:
make a website, and be vague

step 3:
insult your market

step 4:
disrespect the true mastering engineers in the world.

step 5:
sit back and wait for all the business to roll in

maybe this was the same plan for his successfull, rather failed web design business.

LOL damn you! I just laughed hysterically at work! Everyone gave me a look like..."obviously this guy isnt working" hahaha

A few things in The Builders defense because I know him personally and he's a good dude.

1. He pretty much put himself out there completely by saying that his other work had slowed down alot. Instead of giving up, he has come up with the idea of mastering other producer's and dj's work.
2. Some of you noticed that he did respond to a post by stating that this is not top of the line mastering but he will get your tune to sound better, and I think some of you would admit that yes alot of folks are making good tunes but even a rough master is needed.
3. This guy is classicly trained and can fucking rip on guitar. His myspace may say he's been producing for a year, but don't let that fool you, it's only in reference to Dubstep.
4. I've read this whole thread and until the "alpaca, im fucking cooler than you, you don't know what the fuck we're on about" shit came into play I was thinking this is a hot thread and a good one.
5. I'd bet a dollar if you all sat down in person with a beer and a puff the debate would be more on point. Forum posts and text need to be interpreted and this one got ugly when it didn't really need to.

LARGE UP THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, AFTER ALL THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S ABOUT!

http://www.myspace.com/smellslikefishfinger
http://www.facebook.com/smellslikefishfinger

No one ever said Builder was a bad person. You missed the point entirely, we are trying to stop these fly by night half-assed mastering "houses" if you could even call it that.

If your homeboy is so classically trained he would know and wouldn't be calling out real Mastering Engineers saying that they are just kissing our asses. You seem to share the same lack of knowledge the OP does. I am a classically trained musician, and I rip the guitar as well. You see when I was becoming educated not only did I learn my instrument, I learned about recording music, mixing music and the concepts of mastering. He hasn't demonstrated he has any idea what a real mastering engineer does. I bet he doesn't even have a treated room.

Anyone that has the willpower to research for 20 minutes can figure out how to do what he is charging to do. We are trying to preserve our community and the sound the goes along with it, by not allowing bullshit like this to just slide by.

It was nice of you to post on the behalf of your friend though. I am sure he is a chill guy, and over a couple pints he would have some interesting things to say.

But it does not change the fact that this shit is done, his idea a failure, and no one in their right mind would bother wasting their money on this.

fish finger wrote: 2. Some of you noticed that he did respond to a post by stating that this is not top of the line mastering but he will get your tune to sound better, and I think some of you would admit that yes alot of folks are making good tunes but even a rough master is needed.

Why the fuck would you pay for a ROUGH MASTER.

ilok massive

A. No defense for turnmeup.org huh. Didn't think so.

B. Alpaca's huh. I'll-packa bowl is all I know Bro sorry!

C. This isn't about credentials. Its about essentials.

Some Clarification:
I've been performing classical music since middle school, and played and recorded rock and speed metal all through high-school. Plus a musician of the year scholarship to UOP. I've been producing music for the last eight years. So about 17 years total experience in music. Eight years of production. And yes I've taken classes on recording, mixing and mastering.

1. I started this post as a simple message. I'm not trying to take over the industry, master top producers or take business away from the many other services out there. This is just a side project that hopefully I can work with a few on. In fact there are many services out there that have lower prices then mine.

2. I'm sorry if you can't understand why you would need a cheap compression service. There are many types of producers who use such a service. Musicians, Sample Producers, Garage Bands, Vocalists, Collabs, Multimedia, Video etc. Yes 20 min of research would help some figure out what what they need to address when mastering, I'm helping those that don't have the time, effort or will to do so.

3. If I was fly by night would I have invested this much time building my site, or would I just simply declare it 5 bucks a pop like those so quick to do so in response to this thread? My site is fresh, I've spent so much time getting the guts to work properly I haven't been too concerned with my "marketing strategy" or "FAQ". Frankly I just added text for content. I've been more focused on creating a user dashboard for managing uploads and processing statuses then anything else.

4. I wish I could afford all the best outboard gear and offer killer rates for top notch processing. I started this because I have software some don't and time to work. I'm just trying to earn some money to live by. Help me help you so we can both continue to make dub!! Maybe in time I can invest the profit on some real gear. Excuse me for enterprising with what I've got.

5. I'm sorry some don't have a sense of humor about my statements regarding software, lol. Too funny. Your so serious. So eager to spin the wheel. My my my... I've seen so many dubstep producers use pirated copies of reason its not funny. I would seriously like to see who paid for what, it would be hilarious!! My software and hardware is completely legit and paid for. I use Logic with iZotope Ozone 3 on a Power Mac G5 Dual 2.0 outputting to M-Audio BX5's and a Velodyne DPS subwoofer in a 12'x10'x12' room that is completely crammed with my live sound system. Treated, lol. Treated would be a treat. Again, that's not what I'm offering.

6. My web design service kicks ass. I've worked with Intuitive Surgical (da Vinci Surgical System Touch Screen Interface), Food Network, World Institute of Pain, etc. Peep my newest creation: http://www.crossroadsrecordsinc.com. I'm just sick of coding and don't want to put on a suit to go after big clients just yet. I'd just rather work with music for now.

Look homies, the simple fact is: My "shit" is prosperous. My "idea" has ground to gain. And no one in their right mind would listen to these negative statements posted so eagerly. I'm sorry if you feel that this offering is completely useless, this only illustrates your lack of imagination and entrepreneurism.

"This is quite impressive, lol. I love the chaos. I feel like Howard Stern right now lol. Except for one thing... It seems there are no tittes... just a few boobs! LMFAO!

In the end the music speaks for itself...We all know who's saying what.

FYI I'll be processing the first 50 customers for free. All I ask is some feedback on the results.

re #3, first impression's count, general business idea. Especially important in the plastic web world.

There is a lot to be learned in this thread, and I hope that you can learn it for the sake of any of your future business endeavors. In all honesty, and with no agenda.

builderbeats wrote:W I'll just outsource my work to you under another name and get 10 bucks for nothing because my marketing is better, how's that?

so you say this then... and then you say this:

builderbeats wrote:I haven't been too concerned with my "marketing strategy" or "FAQ"

And you are monitoring on these :

builderbeats wrote:M-Audio BX5's

ad you expect people to pay you for anything?

builderbeats wrote:A. No defense for turnmeup.org huh. Didn't think so.

you obviously, with your 17 years of musical experience, can't seem to understand what turnmeup.org is trying to say, or what the loudness war is.

builderbeats wrote:C. This isn't about credentials. Its about essentials.

We'll unfortunately for you, you have neither the essentials, or credentials. So by your own logic you should just stop.


And here was what was said about your A/Bs

selophaine wrote: honestly to me, the examples provided sounded distorted after the "mastering."

builderbeats wrote:1. I started this post as a simple message. I'm not trying to take over the industry, master top producers or take business away from the many other services out there.

and while you are saying this, you previously talk shit on other mastering engineers out there.

builderbeats wrote:Look homies, the simple fact is: My "shit" is prosperous. My "idea" has ground to gain. And no one in their right mind would listen to these negative statements posted so eagerly. I'm sorry if you feel that this offering is completely useless, this only illustrates your lack of imagination and entrepreneurism.

Funny because a lot of the people who posted on here are prosperous in the industry, label owners, and extremely talented musicians. And you are right what you are doing is not completely useless its just sleazy and bastardizing.

builderbeats wrote: My software and hardware is completely legit and paid for. I use Logic with iZotope Ozone 3 on a Power Mac G5 Dual 2.0 outputting to M-Audio BX5's and a Velodyne DPS subwoofer in a 12'x10'x12' room that is completely crammed with my live sound system. Treated, lol. Treated would be a treat. Again, that's not what I'm offering.

This was just quoted for humor, especially the gear listing. You are repeatedly proving your ignorance on the subject of mastering.

nowaysj wrote:re #3, first impression's count, general business idea. Especially important in the plastic web world.

There is a lot to be learned in this thread, and I hope that you can learn it for the sake of any of your future business endeavors. In all honesty, and with no agenda.

+1 sj

lock this shit, I know the mod can see right through this bs.