I wonder where the man himself is to give an explanation for his actions... I'd love to hear what he has to say
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:05 pm
by Depone
reignz wrote:I wonder where the man himself is to give an explanation for his actions... I'd love to hear what he has to say
this... Wondering if we should PM him here or on youtube?
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:06 pm
by reignstep
oh my he just made a new tune, and posted it in the finished tracks thread... dude's got some nerve
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:22 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
Remember that dude that was sampling burial drums and making burial style tunes with them. Back OT there is not really any need to sample other dubstep bass lines, all the tools are available to recreate them as 90% of them are made with virtual instruments and effects alone, but if people don't have the technical sound design skills, sample packs still cut it imo if you use them right.
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:04 am
by Moxxiedubstep
reignz wrote:
Depone wrote:The first one is a BLATANT steal. The second one im not so sure about. I dont think bar 9 would go out there way to steal other people basses. Sounds similar, but its still distinctly Bar 9.
Yes I meant that he used the samples from that bar 9 tune at 0.26 and 0.29 and then called it his own tune..
EDIT:
some more datsik/excision sounds in here...
LOOOOOOOL damn. haha i cant believe it. but that is definitely datsik , Straight out of his "Retreat" song. thats...just funny.
That Kontakt4 is a mofo.
Nothing is wrong with Mt. Eden Dubstep.
EDIT: had to hear it more than 4 times. Thats just bogus.hahahaha
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:21 am
by Moxxiedubstep
reignz wrote:
oh my he just made a new tune, and posted it in the finished tracks thread... dude's got some nerve
notice the dif? he uses the same drum sample but i think he made an attempt to make something original.
Def' not the same impact.
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:09 am
by Depone
Moxxiedubstep wrote:
reignz wrote:
Depone wrote:The first one is a BLATANT steal. The second one im not so sure about. I dont think bar 9 would go out there way to steal other people basses. Sounds similar, but its still distinctly Bar 9.
Yes I meant that he used the samples from that bar 9 tune at 0.26 and 0.29 and then called it his own tune..
EDIT:
some more datsik/excision sounds in here...
LOOOOOOOL damn. haha i cant believe it. but that is definitely datsik , Straight out of his "Retreat" song. thats...just funny.
That Kontakt4 is a mofo.
Nothing is wrong with Mt. Eden Dubstep.
EDIT: had to hear it more than 4 times. Thats just bogus.hahahaha
Innit man...
btw i still dislike Mt.Eden
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:12 am
by Ongelegen
Depone wrote:
reignz wrote:I wonder where the man himself is to give an explanation for his actions... I'd love to hear what he has to say
this... Wondering if we should PM him here or on youtube?
i don't think he's gonna post in this thread or even reply to a PM
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:07 pm
by reignstep
Project EX wrote:
Depone wrote:
reignz wrote:I wonder where the man himself is to give an explanation for his actions... I'd love to hear what he has to say
this... Wondering if we should PM him here or on youtube?
i don't think he's gonna post in this thread or even reply to a PM
We'll make him...
BUMP people should be aware of this...
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:18 pm
by sixth sense
hes got a new one up haha same shit with every tune
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:28 pm
by upstateface
Cutslo and Nitrous.
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:46 pm
by BLAHBLAHJAH
This is another reason why no one should pay for dubstep
Unless of course the dosh is club entry/hiring the sound systems and live acts
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:52 pm
by slothrop
BTW can I clarifiy that although I'd argue that there's nothing intrinsically wrong with sampling basslines, melodies, whatever and that you can still make a good / interesting piece of music by doing it, that tune ain't it.
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:37 pm
by Siderealdb
We should get him to do a tutorial.
Basically there are more steps to making a decent wobble than there are for him to make an entire track.
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:40 pm
by reignstep
sixth sense wrote:hes got a new one up haha same shit every with every tune
u can tell in each song he 'makes' (samples) , there's this crappy lead that belongs nowhere at the start. then the samples drop in and the kids go crazy
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:47 am
by sixth sense
Just noticed I put "every with every tune" man am I an idiot I should double check what I type out next time
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:20 am
by KingNoble
its a fast way to put out a bunch of tracks that all sound the same. limits creativity imo.
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:46 pm
by faultier
now, now, as lot of people said, what this kid does is just laughable, there's no point arguing... but this debate is interesting (i think) so lets push it further: i trust most of you know who SBTRKT is, and i think we can agree that he is a respectable artist...
i was completely amazed when i heard this tune dropped in a mix:
then reading the comments (yeah i read the youtube comments cause i'm a pervert like that) i realise that the tune is kind of a blatant rip off:
yep, he pretty much just layed a beat and a sinewave on their track...note he didnt titled it as a remix
also note he re-did goldie - timeless and idk which radiohead tune in similar way, tho to be fair the wink was more obvious for these
so, opinions ?
also, dont get me wrong i'm not trying to diss sbtrkt (i'll be the first to buy this tune if it ever gets a release )
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:48 pm
by sixth sense
dfaultuzr wrote:now, now, as lot of people said, what this kid does is just laughable, there's no point arguing... but this debate is interesting (i think) so lets push it further: i trust most of you know who SBTRKT is, and i think we can agree that he is a respectable artist...
i was completely amazed when i heard this tune dropped in a mix:
then reading the comments (yeah i read the youtube comments cause i'm a pervert like that) i realise that the tune is kind of a blatant rip off:
yep, he pretty much just layed a beat and a sinewave on their track...note he didnt titled it as a remix
also note he re-did goldie - timeless and idk which radiohead tune in similar way, tho to be fair the wink was more obvious for these
so, opinions ?
also, dont get me wrong i'm not trying to diss sbtrkt (i'll be the first to buy this tune if it ever gets a release )
The difference is SBTKRT actually has talent unlike that cyrex kid he is just straight up stealing SBTKRT took something completely out of the norm and turned it into a legit dubstep tune he was obviously was touched by the melody and wanted to expand on it thus he did and it turned out very good. I find nothing wrong with what SBTKRT, IMO.
Re: Sampling bass from other producers
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:24 am
by serox
How cheesy are those tracks/samples?
People have been cheeky with peoples music from day one and its never going to stop while punters dont give a shit.
That bass sounds like a million other people uisng Massive right now so who gives a shit. Every geek with a computer is making 'dubstep' and guess what, it all sounds like that! they should start calling it gimmickSTEP.
Brick wall limiters on everything and the latest plugin bla bla bla.