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Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:07 pm
by fractal
JensMadsen wrote:... try a bit of 130-138 bpm bass instead? ...

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:46 pm
by djbmc
i don't really care if it is or not, but i'm not inclined to listen to something that doesn't have a decent sub.

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:39 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
...You abandoned me...sub don't live here anymore...

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:10 am
by wobbles
instead of venting, make a change.
know people that listen to that stuff and you hate it? Play some music that you enjoy.
i've gotten quite a few people into dmz, burial, etc etc.

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:57 pm
by Blerim
hasnt brostep died down slightly? havent heard that much of it this year to be honest

just switched off my radar to the shit

so much good stuff coming out now, probably more than last year so far ;-)

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:19 pm
by NickUndercover
Blerim wrote:hasnt brostep died down slightly? havent heard that much of it this year to be honest

just switched off my radar to the shit

so much good stuff coming out now, probably more than last year so far ;-)

Nah I've been getting this feeling too. Trends are shifting...

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:16 pm
by _TraX_
But the thing is these rants against brostep (dare I utter that abomination of a word) and mid frequency are starting to become just as generic, redundant and re-hashed as the songs they bash. Seriously, the best we can do is just educate our friends about it. "Ohhh bro if you say you like dubstep you should check out Kode9, he's boss!" Sadly I often get the 'wtf are you on meth

But it makes sense, it's just more appealing to a bigger crowd. Music that gets your hormones raging.

Yoi....yoi.......yoi....wub.......

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:34 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
before halfstep took over in 2005 there were other sounds within dubstep and they werent necessarily all dominated by 33/41hz frequencies

there is good and bad music within all the subgenres...its never that black and white and ultimately the 'deep' heads increasingly it seems to me werent there any where near the beginning

of course...i hate a lot of the screechy stuff myself but i also dislike a lot of halfstep as its getting very formulaic

this is one reason stuff like addison groove and juke type stuff has done so well and butterz has gone from strength to strength

there is also some excellent tearout now from people like lost, benton, kutz amongst many others

i honestly dont know why these threads are still getting made...

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:43 pm
by FuzionDubstep
not sure, sometimes if its a more chilled out track then the sub can interrupt the 'calmness' and it sounds better without a sub.. can't explain it properly but no it doesn't have to have sub-bass.. but maybe that's cos I'm more open minded than most people, I love all genres of music and personally yeah I like skrillex I think his productions are fucking top quality I couldn't give a shit if people don't like that, especially the people that play his music in sets and then come on here jumping on the band wagon pretending to not like him. Plus bro-step is stupid music is music I don't define things by genre I just listen to a song and if I like it ill listen to it and if I don't like it I wont listen.. SOME people on here are so arrogant about music they think there cool for only listening to the old school dubstep, well your not you're just ignorant

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:16 pm
by krytikal
FuzionDubstep wrote:not sure, sometimes if its a more chilled out track then the sub can interrupt the 'calmness' and it sounds better without a sub..
:6:

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:17 pm
by FuzionDubstep
krytikal wrote:
FuzionDubstep wrote:not sure, sometimes if its a more chilled out track then the sub can interrupt the 'calmness' and it sounds better without a sub..
:6:
LOL, I phrased that so badly but its a personal thing ignore that haha

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:47 pm
by Lawman
All the people saying there's no sub in brostep are crazy. Sub is not the focus, but it's always present and sometimes very low. Songs like Sweet Shop in particular have really really low sub that you will not hear without a good subwoofer. If you don't believe me, throw the song in fruityloops (or whatever) and check out the parametric eq. Saying "brostep sucks cause there is NO sub in it" is just not a good argument. Saying "brostep sucks because it sounds like robo-farts" IS an acceptable argument.

But honestly a genre completely focused on nothing but subbass is destined to lose the popularity contest. Many people find dubstep horribly boring without any midrange/high synths or vocals. Sub itself can only impress so many people. Plus all the kids listening without a subwoofer think that Loefah songs are completely empty with nothing but spaced out kicks and snares.

Most of the people on this forum will continue to support the original dubstep sound which is great, but it should be no surprise why producers like Skrillex have become the most popular.

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:09 am
by drugmoney
lawman wins with the most valid logical point.

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:00 am
by fractal
Thank god sub bass music isn't popular imho

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:48 am
by wooda916
Pistonsbeneath wrote:before halfstep took over in 2005 there were other sounds within dubstep and they werent necessarily all dominated by 33/41hz frequencies

there is good and bad music within all the subgenres...its never that black and white and ultimately the 'deep' heads increasingly it seems to me werent there any where near the beginning

of course...i hate a lot of the screechy stuff myself but i also dislike a lot of halfstep as its getting very formulaic

this is one reason stuff like addison groove and juke type stuff has done so well and butterz has gone from strength to strength

there is also some excellent tearout now from people like lost, benton, kutz amongst many others

i honestly dont know why these threads are still getting made...
spot on.

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:00 pm
by Akira
There's no originality with bro-step tho, every song follows the same format and has the same style of bassline...And it just sounds a little wack....
Bro-step is a one trick pony.
Dubstep is Master of All.

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:12 pm
by Metabolic
Akira wrote:There's no originality with bro-step tho, every song follows the same format and has the same style of bassline...And it just sounds a little wack....
Bro-step is a one trick pony.
Dubstep is Master of All.
how can you say that......ppl could say Dubstep is just sub with a few samples strewn about the place..but its not so stop being ignorant....although i am gettin annoyed with havin to use the standard drum structure

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:16 pm
by drugmoney
guys, this is really serious business. no fucking around. we can't be letting the world get away with this unanswered question of "wH@t i$ 7Ru3 dU8$7#P?"

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:19 pm
by Basstronomer
Metabolic wrote:the standard drum structure
Never heard of this one... -q-

Re: If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:56 pm
by garethom
Metabolic wrote:although i am gettin annoyed with havin to use the standard drum structure
Surely it's this sort of thing that makes people say all the "bro-step all sounds the same" stuff? :6: