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Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:37 am
by dublerium
Your not inclined to like things just because a lot of people do, everyone's got there own taste and it's not something you can just ask someone what your missing, no ones going to say anything that instantly makes you dig it, it's just taste; maybe you'll feel it one day in the future but just like what you like.

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:38 am
by antipode
Yeah.. Hyperdub? Minimal? Wut? It's the least minimal label I can think of.

Sine of the Dub being the exception :P

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:46 pm
by Muncey
Whenever i study or read i always put Burial on. I cant do anything in silence, my ears expect sound and i lose concentration if im in silence, same with if something is too loud/too much going on. Burial is perfect for me, so chilled out.. perfect background music, really helps me concentrate.

And ill just repeat similar comments made already, it took me a while to get fully into Burials music but once i started to love it i just became hooked. Its very hard to explain, hes just a genius.

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:10 pm
by 222sucram
xlyr wrote:
222sucram wrote:there are only two burial tracks I don't like; Spaceape and Raver.
:o Raver is one of my favorite tracks... Agree on Spaceape though, it doesn't really fit with the rest of his music.

I was like OP for a little, but like everyone says, it might just click for you one day. I don't really like most of the Hyperdub crew except Burial. It just doesn't really do it for me :P
Well I do like the track, but not where its placed in the album. Having one 4x4 tune at the end of an album that's just dark garage just throws me off a bit.

:o That mt. eden remix, that shit is deep.


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Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:32 pm
by DrastikMeazures
+1 for not feeling it, I'm sure these tunes have there place in a mix (the chill out portion) but I couldn't listen to a whole album of this stuff. I did like that boomslang tune though, plus it's just good to see Dwayne Wayne and that girl from A Different World still working together.

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:47 pm
by leeany
I don't know how people consider Burial's stuff minimal, it's got tons of layers. I listen to Burial literally every day and I still hear new things in the tunes every now and then

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:01 pm
by garethom
LumiNiscent wrote:I don't know how people consider Burial's stuff minimal, it's got tons of layers. I listen to Burial literally every day and I still hear new things in the tunes every now and then
:z: This! And "chill out". I mean, if you can chill out to the bass on stuff like South London Boroughs, Shutta, Pirates, then you must be a pretty hectic person.

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:27 pm
by 222sucram
garethom wrote:
LumiNiscent wrote:I don't know how people consider Burial's stuff minimal, it's got tons of layers. I listen to Burial literally every day and I still hear new things in the tunes every now and then
:z: This! And "chill out". I mean, if you can chill out to the bass on stuff like South London Boroughs, Shutta, Pirates, then you must be a pretty hectic person.
Yeah, Some of burials tune have mad bass weight.

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:38 pm
by joeki
Still, I have to argue that in ways, Burial's music is minimal.

His palette is not that broad and there is as much emphasis on empty voids and spaces than there is at the filling.
He might add crackle and layered vocals here, but then leave something out so they have their space. It's very four-dimensional so I suppose it's not minimal by definition, but within this space there is a lot of "space" if you know what I mean.

The same effects, Drums, percussions, vocals and effects are all very reoccurring feats in his productions as well. It may not be technically so, but I do understand why someone would label Burials music as quite minimal.

Don't get me wrong though....compared to acts like Emptyset, this shit is grand...but compare it to shoegaze bands or several melodic drone-doom bands and this shit becomes quite minimal.

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:43 pm
by garethom
joeki wrote:Still, I have to argue that in ways, Burial's music is minimal.

His palette is not that broad and there is as much emphasis on empty voids and spaces than there is at the filling.
He might add crackle and layered vocals here, but then leave something out so they have their space. It's very four-dimensional so I suppose it's not minimal by definition, but within this space there is a lot of "space" if you know what I mean.

The same effects, Drums, percussions, vocals and effects are all very reoccurring feats in his productions as well. It may not be technically so, but I do understand why someone would label Burials music as quite minimal.

Don't get me wrong though....compared to acts like Emptyset, this shit is grand...but compare it to shoegaze bands or several melodic drone-doom bands and this shit becomes quite minimal.
I get completely what you're saying, but to me, minimal means, I dunno, there isn't a lot going on? :lol: Don't get me wrong, I love me some minimal, minimal techno, minimal dnb, minimal whatever, I love it, but I'm struggling to think of Burial as minimal when there's so much going on, so many intricate little layers to his work, and as I mentioned before, some of his tracks are seriously sub-heavy. There's space in his work, but it's not true space, there's always something there. :mrgreen:

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:15 pm
by leeany
when people say minimal, I think of Philip Glass. who is a badman btw.

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:35 pm
by Shum
LumiNiscent wrote:when people say minimal, I think of Philip Glass. who is a badman btw.
He might disagree with you on that thought though. :lol:

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:44 pm
by Staley
malabuandcoki wrote:Listen to Ghost Hardware by Burial on your headphones, while walking through London on a brisk wednesday evening, after just breaking up with your girlfriend, then it will click
I think you hit the nail on the head here. I didn't understand Burial, until I fully understood pain.

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:55 pm
by malabuandcoki
i think people have confused minimal for ambient. His stuff is influenced by ambient music and its very atmospheric. not such much minimal. Id imagine influenced by Brian Eno and others

@Staley- Yeah his stuffs so emotional and raw. theres def a time and a place to listen to it.

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:04 am
by malabuandcoki
I also used to find his stuff boring. but i realised i was asking too much of it and looking at it from a dubstep perspective.
Its better to look at it from a ambient music perspective :i:
its not for everyone tho. each to their own ofc

Re: Am I the only one who just doesn't get Burial and Hyperd

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:43 am
by joeki
Well if someone has confused minimal with ambient, it sure as shit wasn't me :).