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Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:52 am
by Add9
mromgwtf wrote:
Multi account much? lol
There is a difference between harmonic and an overtone.
lol nah i was referring to my post u responded to, I just quoted the wrong thing. Anyway I know I said "harmonics" when I should have said overtones or additional harmonics but that wasn't really the point anyway and I think everyone understood what I meant.

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:23 pm
by claudedefaren
guys, guys, guys.... just use Pro-L

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:27 pm
by claudedefaren
btw, person who responded saying i should not drive the clippers so hard:i wasn't. i make it JUST BARELY clip. still harsh. my ears are super sensitive to all the little intricacies of things. barely soft clipping sounds more harsh than using Pro-L. another good one is FG-X. but i prefer Pro-L. more control.

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:46 pm
by therealillume
[/quote]I would rather use FFT than DFT. But anyway:
Sine wave doesn't have overtones, but it does have one harmonic.
And 1 != 0 .
No harmonic content = no signal.

And a compressor with 0 attack/release wouldn't be considered a compressor.
You can't even set 0 attack/release on most of the compressors.[/quote]

You misread what he said. He said 0 attack and infinite release which would act almost exactly like a limiter. Sidenote: sine waves in theory only have a fundamental frequency or 1st harmonic, however as soon as those digital sine waves come out of your speakers the acoustics of your room will change that, ie. if your room dimensions allow, you may hear harmonics and overtones...a good clue that you're not mixing/producing in the right environment.

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:52 pm
by claudedefaren
im gay

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:53 pm
by mromgwtf
claudedefaren wrote:im gay
I can't find a fitting emoticon as my response.

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:18 pm
by SunkLo
mromgwtf wrote: I would rather use FFT than DFT. But anyway:
FFT is just an optimized implementation of DFT.
mromgwtf wrote: Sine wave doesn't have overtones, but it does have one harmonic.
And 1 != 0 .
No harmonic content = no signal.
Why would he be saying a sine has no signal, that's retarded. When he said harmonic content he was obviously referring to additional harmonics above the fundamental and the fact that they are added when squaring off a sine wave. "Yeah m8 this sine has mad harmonic content!" said no one ever.
mromgwtf wrote: And a compressor with 0 attack/release wouldn't be considered a compressor.
You can't even set 0 attack/release on most of the compressors.
Does it magically transform into some other device then? Compassion does 0 A/R. The Rocket comes within a fraction of a microsecond. C1 does near 0. The fact that your particular compressor of choice can't do it doesn't change the fact that were you to do it, it would be exactly like clipping.

Distortion and clipping both squish signal above a threshold, compressors just do a fancy dance when the threshold is crossed. I don't see how it's not obvious that the two are intrinsically linked.

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:29 am
by mromgwtf
SunkLo wrote:
mromgwtf wrote: I would rather use FFT than DFT. But anyway:
FFT is just an optimized implementation of DFT.
That's the case.
SunkLo wrote:
mromgwtf wrote: Sine wave doesn't have overtones, but it does have one harmonic.
And 1 != 0 .
No harmonic content = no signal.
Why would he be saying a sine has no signal, that's retarded. When he said harmonic content he was obviously referring to additional harmonics above the fundamental and the fact that they are added when squaring off a sine wave. "Yeah m8 this sine has mad harmonic content!" said no one ever.
Sine wave has one harmonic - so it has harmonic content. If you want to refer to ADDITIONAL harmonics, then you would say "overtones", not harmonics.
Yes, I agree sine wave doesn't have OVERTONES, but it does have HARMONICS.

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:33 am
by SunkLo
Well if you want to be pedantic, no it doesn't. It has A harmonic.

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:43 am
by Triphosphate
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Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:01 am
by mromgwtf
SunkLo wrote:Well if you want to be pedantic, no it doesn't. It has A harmonic.
JEEEEEEEEZ
That's what I wanted to say.
At least now you agree with me because you said sine wave doesn't have harmonic content :corndance:

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:52 am
by Add9
mromgwtf wrote:
SunkLo wrote:Well if you want to be pedantic, no it doesn't. It has A harmonic.
JEEEEEEEEZ
That's what I wanted to say.
lol the hypocrisy is too much for me to handle

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:27 pm
by mromgwtf
Add9 wrote:
mromgwtf wrote:
SunkLo wrote:Well if you want to be pedantic, no it doesn't. It has A harmonic.
JEEEEEEEEZ
That's what I wanted to say.
lol the hypocrisy is too much for me to handle
No it was just a typo

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:37 pm
by Add9
mromgwtf wrote:
Add9 wrote:
mromgwtf wrote:
SunkLo wrote:Well if you want to be pedantic, no it doesn't. It has A harmonic.
JEEEEEEEEZ
That's what I wanted to say.
lol the hypocrisy is too much for me to handle
No it was just a typo
I know it was a typo... I'm not saying you don't know what you meant, I just think its funny that you find it frustrating when someone corrects you in the same way you've been trying to correct everyone else. If you're going to call everyone out on the most minute typos then obviously you're going to get called out on yours

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:20 pm
by mromgwtf
Add9 wrote:
mromgwtf wrote:
Add9 wrote:
mromgwtf wrote:
SunkLo wrote:Well if you want to be pedantic, no it doesn't. It has A harmonic.
JEEEEEEEEZ
That's what I wanted to say.
lol the hypocrisy is too much for me to handle
No it was just a typo
I know it was a typo... I'm not saying you don't know what you meant, I just think its funny that you find it frustrating when someone corrects you in the same way you've been trying to correct everyone else. If you're going to call everyone out on the most minute typos then obviously you're going to get called out on yours
I'm not correcting anyone I'm just discussing about something I don't agree with?

Re: Multiband Soft Clipping vs Compression

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:12 pm
by SunkLo
Pretty obvious that when someone is talking about the harmonic content of a wave, they're not discussing a single fundamental. In the same way you wouldn't be discussing the harmonies in a monophonic track. Nobody's really disputing that a sine wave isn't silent. Can we just pretend like he said overtones instead and go back to whatever bullshit we were discussing before?