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This is not a question of what is called dubstep and what isnt. This is a question of quality control. Quality control is already exerted by who gets to play at the main nights in London. Seems like the quality is very good. Quality control becomes more of an issue outside of London. With nights like Dubwar in NYC it also seems like the quality control is very good.

"you see House is a feeling"

geoff wrote:This is not a question of what is called dubstep and what isnt. This is a question of quality control. Quality control is already exerted by who gets to play at the main nights in London. Seems like the quality is very good. Quality control becomes more of an issue outside of London. With nights like Dubwar in NYC it also seems like the quality control is very good.

true. people can chat all sorts, in this breeze factory.
but all the heads who are running this thing know whats they're doing.

dubstep is for smoking weed and skanking to. bun this talk. it gets hung out on the washing line and given AIR.

Dubstep = Going to DMZ and having so much fun I can barely believe I'm nearly 37! Who knew 20 years after my first warehouse party that music and going out could be getting better?!

I couldnt care less really, I'm not a shaper of the scene just a punter but I liked the description on Dubstep Warz - "you start with sub and what goes on top is up to the producer." Everyone has their own interpretation

Isn't this why a lot of grime MC's refuse to say they are grime? They are lyricists and they will spit over anyhting, bhangra, dub, beats, opera whatever the f*ck sounds good. Ok opera is a bit of a stretch.

I'll let you lot argue it out - I'm having too much fun to worry about the complexities.

I woke up last night (about 3am actually) with my cans still on in the middle of Skream playing (I think) Taps (Tapz?) and started skanking around in the bedroom - from fast asleep to eyes down easy skanking in a heart (drum?) beat! Thats all the definition of dubstep I need!

PEACE!

you start with sub and what goes on top is up to the producer.

Yup, listen to:
Caspa - For The Kids ( Techno kinda influences )

Skream - Lightning ( Kinda a housey kick )

DMZ - Officer ( Raggae Influences ).

Pinch - Qawaali VIP ( Minimal BIG Sub )

All these tunes are dubstep still but you can hear certain influences from other places. They still have really fat basslines.


But enough I think the topic should be locked.

I've felt Saturday that dubstep is just this incredible sound which has the magic power to integrate anything from reggae, dub, hip-hop, grime, to house, acid, minimal techno... and unite reggae soldiers and ravers ??
HOW COOL IS THAT ??

NEXT QUESTION!

Let good music speak for itself.

..not dubstep

sek [espionage] wrote:

..not dubstep

I die a little inside everytime I read a review or thread saying this or that isn't dubstep. If you'd believe certain people, anything not out of the DMZ camp and without his seal of approval isn't Dubstep. A lot of these heads seem to eager to point out the history and how they were on it from day. Yes there will always be and needs to be classifications of what is what, every single one of our brains is wired up to do that whether we like it or not. But what militant pigeon holing brehs don't realise, is dubstep isn't just the Croydon/south london crew beats anymore, there's a whole world out there and the face and sound of Dubstep is changing and evolving with every release. I'm not denying it's history and certainly not denying any respect to anyone who has contributed to the scene, only pointing out that it is changing and will continue to do. You can either get hung up on calling a 138 halfsteppa with an extra ghost snare in it 'breakstep' or not.

dubstep. (click on the picture for the evidence)

i'd say Queen were more proto-grime actually.

This geezer's dubstep.

dubstep

now it's just getting silly. which is what i like actually........

Dubstep

you know what they say ask a silly question......................................

forensix wrote:

dubstep

Plasticman wrote: As a DJ however I like to feel I represent as much of the full spectrum from grime to dubstep as possible.

and u represent - your sets on last FWD and DMZ where great!
diversity is the key!!!