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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:48 pm
by spooKs
Rogue Star wrote:check out my EP on Urban Graffiti and also check me myspaz www.myspace.com/roguestaruc (Full Throttle :wink: )

Got sum more waitin on the hardrive to be seen again. If more people are feeling this style again then i would be more than happy to go back to the old ways 8)
you don't make enough tunes blad! ahah sorry. but The Calling is up there with the best dubstep. i have been caning no such thing as fate for ages though so big up.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:50 pm
by beeyatch
one thing that's kinda amusing about dubstep is the "step" that came from 2-step is long gone. a lot of the bingo beats stuff still had that steppy feel. doesn't seem like anybody is pushing that sound anymore which is a shame cos it is killer.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:51 pm
by epithet
^^darqwan still got some 'nu darq swing' step to action :)

Gyu wrote:Me @ www.myspace.com/guyfforde

Top tune is more dubsteppy, others are more breaky
EP link below
:)

Top notch stuff. Still play a mean madtek mix of yours from few years back.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:04 pm
by myrkur
Listened to the stuff that's been mentioned so far and I've come across a lot of great tunes. Really need to get some of those things on wax quickly :D
P-Vans wrote:hey man nice tunes you got here bro, Lovin the Darko and Entangelement. Top vibes here.

guessing there is quite a large scene in Netherlands yeah? Still meaning to get over there.

But back to the point yeah I have been feeling alot of the break influenced Dubstep for a while since the direction in garage went kinda breaky with Darquan El B etc... but yeah nice variety really, love some of dub childs bits and Search & Destroy, Vex'd.

Big up on those tunes Myrkur.
Cheers man, glad you're liking it. Yeah Holland has a great dubstep scene, lots of massive parties and good dj's, and everyone knows eachother, nice friendly vibes all over the place :)

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:14 pm
by spooKs
Beeyatch wrote:one thing that's kinda amusing about dubstep is the "step" that came from 2-step is long gone. a lot of the bingo beats stuff still had that steppy feel. doesn't seem like anybody is pushing that sound anymore which is a shame cos it is killer.
not true!!! too many examples to name! a lot of em in this thread!!

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:32 pm
by beeyatch
spooKs wrote:
Beeyatch wrote:one thing that's kinda amusing about dubstep is the "step" that came from 2-step is long gone. a lot of the bingo beats stuff still had that steppy feel. doesn't seem like anybody is pushing that sound anymore which is a shame cos it is killer.
not true!!! too many examples to name! a lot of em in this thread!!
i'm talking about tunes like darqwan - as we enta and el-b - the spooks. who is repping that sound currently?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:50 pm
by epithet
Myrkur wrote: Made a pretty breaky track myself lately, it's on my myspace. It's the second tune, called 'Pleasey Please'. ;)
wow :o the other 2 are bangin as well

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:07 am
by p-vans
Big up on those tunes Myrkur.
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Cheers man, glad you're liking it. Yeah Holland has a great dubstep scene, lots of massive parties and good dj's, and everyone knows eachother, nice friendly vibes all over the place :)[/quote]

really... (Phil Van der Reyden Contemplates booking flight to Holland next year)

:arrow: :D

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:10 am
by deamonds
David_M wrote:
We need Search & Destroy back though

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:23 am
by saxenhammer
DarkfireDub wrote:Other possible inclusions in the hall of fame history from a DNB perspective...
Panacea and Position Chrome, Squarepusher, AFX, T Power, Source Direct, Photek, Limewax, SPL, Tech Itch, Current Value, Spor, Donny, Resonant Evil, Stakka and Skynet, Konflict, BC, High Rankin, J Tek Records
not to mention...
Nine Inch Nails, Planet Mu, Wrong Music, Front 242, Meat Beat Manifesto, Godflesh, Scorn...
:Q: Salute the breakcore pioneers!!
There aren't any breakcore pioneers in your list..apart from maybe a Godflesh remix from 95,and the first few Panacea records. I don't really see what influence breakcore has on the breakstep stuff though. Most of it's more influenced by drum n bass/jungle i'd say. And not the macho stuff like limewax etc
dvnt wrote:Ello Saxen. :wink:
Hello mate :)

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:41 am
by spooKs
Beeyatch wrote:
spooKs wrote:
Beeyatch wrote:one thing that's kinda amusing about dubstep is the "step" that came from 2-step is long gone. a lot of the bingo beats stuff still had that steppy feel. doesn't seem like anybody is pushing that sound anymore which is a shame cos it is killer.
not true!!! too many examples to name! a lot of em in this thread!!
i'm talking about tunes like darqwan - as we enta and el-b - the spooks. who is repping that sound currently?
umm, el-b is, for one.

i agree, i LOVE this stuff and there should be more of it, but you need to search the people out. check out the track purify on untold's ep on hessle audio. obviously no one makes stuff EXACTLY like that cos those 2 tunes have already been done (which i might add, are both very different). You need to look under the surface though. it's not like el-b was a huge name when he made that.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:07 am
by beeyatch
untold is great. hadn't heard that tune, tnx.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:18 am
by dlx
http://www.myspace.com/doctorlazarusx

I love cutting up breaks at 140 :U:

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:40 am
by gyu
epithet wrote:^^darqwan still got some 'nu darq swing' step to action :)

Gyu wrote:Me @ www.myspace.com/guyfforde

Top tune is more dubsteppy, others are more breaky
EP link below
:)

Top notch stuff. Still play a mean madtek mix of yours from few years back.
Cheers man :D
Thanks for posting up that mix, it's sweet

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:02 pm
by epithet
^^Yeah it's a keeper eh ? The sound has surely come a along way.
DLX wrote:http://www.myspace.com/doctorlazarusx

I love cutting up breaks at 140
I love you cutting up breaks at 140.:U:

To all the breaksteppas. Where have you all been hiding ? Please step out into the light. So many choice tunes new tunes and producers. Keep em coming.

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:26 am
by mechabot 01
Epithet - Yes I am and no worries bruv.

I've just got back from miami so I'm in recovery mode, once I'm sorted I'll gladly post something on how I see breakstep from the origins to the present day.

One thing I will say now is, ya'll are missing out on a ton of music that falls into the vibes your describing. Tearout breaks when done properly is for the most part rolling drums and twisted pacey blines, check out the mechanoise/breaksfm/hardcore beats/waveshape/downbeat/guerilla tactics/tipper music/cyberfunk catalogues, and that's just for starters. The thing with sub genres is that they often end up pretty niche because a lot of people that would soak up the sounds have no clue that it even exists under that name.

catch ya soon....

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:33 am
by epithet
Choice one bro. Well looking forward to it. I totally hear ya on the falling between the cracks stuff and the cross genre stuff.

I suppose i could go back and re write a more comprehensive cough* history*cough but it was more a personal reflection straight of the top of dome and hopefully inspiration for someone more knowledgable than i to contribute to and maybe as a point of entry for those new to the sound and it's connection to dubstep to look into.

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:13 am
by beeyatch
Mechabot 01 wrote: One thing I will say now is, ya'll are missing out on a ton of music that falls into the vibes your describing. Tearout breaks when done properly is for the most part rolling drums and twisted pacey blines, check out the mechanoise/breaksfm/hardcore beats/waveshape/downbeat/guerilla tactics/tipper music/cyberfunk catalogues, and that's just for starters.
catch ya soon....
i wouldn't say we're missing out on that stuff -- just wouldn't call it breakstep. not that i have ANY interest in some wacky academic argument about the "breakstep" label cos obviously like any genre name people define it in different ways. but it seems to me that tearout is tearout and breakstep differs in the drum patterns. miles davis said you can define any style of music by the rhythm. that's how i see it.

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:30 am
by epithet
Beeyatch wrote: not that i have ANY interest in some wacky academic argument about the "breakstep" label but it seems to me that tearout is tearout and breakstep differs in the drum patterns.
I beg to differ. You seem to have developed quite an interest and even an opinion :P

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:48 am
by beeyatch
haha ok ok i got an opinion of course. but i have said all along that there are many histories, people use genre names in different ways, and so on.. there are some boards where genre definition flame wars carry on 24/7. those people really need to get out more.