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Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:54 am
by rob sparx
yong wrote:'Breathe' on my myspace is a BIT trancey.

Shameless self promotion.
All his tunes are a bit trancey but MIGRAT003 is the most trancey out of them

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:05 pm
by rob sparx
joe muggs wrote:I respect anyone's attempts to find their way to an original way to express themselves, and it's always good when people don't want to be constrained by artificial genre boundaries in their desire to follow the creative urge.


However....


Fuck trance.
Hahah each to their own! I seen your review of the pixies in the paper yesterday - I'm sure plenty of ppl would say the same thing about indie music lol

Don't even get me started on IDM - what the fuk is that all about, 99% atonal chinstoking wank like modern art in a musical form

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:13 pm
by cosmic revenge
rob sparx wrote:
joe muggs wrote:I respect anyone's attempts to find their way to an original way to express themselves, and it's always good when people don't want to be constrained by artificial genre boundaries in their desire to follow the creative urge.


However....


Fuck trance.
Hahah each to their own! I seen your review of the pixies in the paper yesterday - I'm sure plenty of ppl would say the same thing about indie music lol

Don't even get me started on IDM - what the fuk is that all about, 99% atonal chinstoking wank like modern art in a musical form
haha this is great. there are some good artists that people classify as "IDM", i.e. autechre, aphex, venetian snares, and other big names in the game etc., but i agree a large majority of it is extremely boring and abstract on purpose. well put - modern art in a musical form.

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:02 pm
by sigbowls
cosmic revenge wrote:
rob sparx wrote:
joe muggs wrote:I respect anyone's attempts to find their way to an original way to express themselves, and it's always good when people don't want to be constrained by artificial genre boundaries in their desire to follow the creative urge.


However....


Fuck trance.
Hahah each to their own! I seen your review of the pixies in the paper yesterday - I'm sure plenty of ppl would say the same thing about indie music lol

Don't even get me started on IDM - what the fuk is that all about, 99% atonal chinstoking wank like modern art in a musical form
haha this is great. there are some good artists that people classify as "IDM", i.e. autechre, aphex, venetian snares, and other big names in the game etc., but i agree a large majority of it is extremely boring and abstract on purpose. well put - modern art in a musical form.
autechre is sick

heres the mary anne hobbs show
http://5-against-4.blogspot.com/2008/02 ... hobbs.html

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:20 am
by nousd
Way^
Subsector's Wubstep1 off Soundcloud track...more ambient dubstep then trancey to my ears.
ds variations don't have to become sub-genres....tends to lock producers into a certain descriptor which becomes boring.

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:33 am
by collige
signals wrote:
cosmic revenge wrote:
rob sparx wrote:
joe muggs wrote:I respect anyone's attempts to find their way to an original way to express themselves, and it's always good when people don't want to be constrained by artificial genre boundaries in their desire to follow the creative urge.


However....


Fuck trance.
Hahah each to their own! I seen your review of the pixies in the paper yesterday - I'm sure plenty of ppl would say the same thing about indie music lol

Don't even get me started on IDM - what the fuk is that all about, 99% atonal chinstoking wank like modern art in a musical form
haha this is great. there are some good artists that people classify as "IDM", i.e. autechre, aphex, venetian snares, and other big names in the game etc., but i agree a large majority of it is extremely boring and abstract on purpose. well put - modern art in a musical form.
autechre is sick

heres the mary anne hobbs show
http://5-against-4.blogspot.com/2008/02 ... hobbs.html
The only one of those artists I would classify as IDM is Autechre...and their live act isn't even remotely intelligent.

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:04 am
by yong
rob sparx wrote:
yong wrote:'Breathe' on my myspace is a BIT trancey.

Shameless self promotion.
All his tunes are a bit trancey but MIGRAT003 is the most trancey out of them

Breathe is an artist? I was referring to my tune on my profile.

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:45 am
by rob sparx
yong wrote:
rob sparx wrote:
yong wrote:'Breathe' on my myspace is a BIT trancey.

Shameless self promotion.
All his tunes are a bit trancey but MIGRAT003 is the most trancey out of them

Breathe is an artist? I was referring to my tune on my profile.
Doh sorry man I thought u were talking about Numbernin6's Breathe bootleg I see what u mean now lol

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:17 am
by yong
rob sparx wrote:
yong wrote:
rob sparx wrote:
yong wrote:'Breathe' on my myspace is a BIT trancey.

Shameless self promotion.
All his tunes are a bit trancey but MIGRAT003 is the most trancey out of them

Breathe is an artist? I was referring to my tune on my profile.
Doh sorry man I thought u were talking about Numbernin6's Breathe bootleg I see what u mean now lol
It's cool man. Big up on the album.

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:27 am
by deepsteppa
have you heard of DFRNT?

well heres one tune...

its the closest i've heard to dubstep with trance bits in it thats actually really good...

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:21 am
by deamonds
trance is soooo shit.

You havent experienced the full amount of shitness until you have walked past Es Paradise in Ibiza & heard it blaring, along with all the knobs in fluorescent yellow & ridiculously long spiked hair, flailing their arms with glow sticks outside. Thank god twice as nice was @ Eden that night.

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:40 am
by steshine
I'm interested to know what elements of dubstep you've introduced to this song..... i can't really see any.
It's my opinion that the word 'dubstep' is getting thrown around a lot lately just because it's hot and cool... i wouldn't really classify caspa, rusko, etc..as dubstep and that's my main problem with them. Their music does have a place on the dance floor but it swings much more towards electro than 'dubstep' for me....
I view dubstep as a cross between dub, garage, and jungle.... can't really see any of those traits in your music....

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:14 pm
by larry turnip
here's boys and gals check it www.myspace.com/larryturnipuk maybe u'll like could be some what linked to this thread :)

Easy!

LT

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:27 pm
by deepsteppa
deamonds wrote:trance is soooo shit.

You havent experienced the full amount of shitness until you have walked past Es Paradise in Ibiza & heard it blaring, along with all the knobs in fluorescent yellow & ridiculously long spiked hair, flailing their arms with glow sticks outside. Thank god twice as nice was @ Eden that night.
mmmmm thats some tashty narrowmindness, a bit of salt and i'll be a happy man. eliteness, woop!

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:15 am
by akilles
deepsteppa wrote:
deamonds wrote:trance is soooo shit.

You havent experienced the full amount of shitness until you have walked past Es Paradise in Ibiza & heard it blaring, along with all the knobs in fluorescent yellow & ridiculously long spiked hair, flailing their arms with glow sticks outside. Thank god twice as nice was @ Eden that night.
mmmmm thats some tashty narrowmindness, a bit of salt and i'll be a happy man. eliteness, woop!
init.
i went to ibiza over summer. for the trance. and it was really good.
why not go to any club in london for twice as nice than go to ibiza?

and to be honest you get knobs in flourescent's at dubstep nights pretty much everywhere except dmz and fwd et al.

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:41 am
by whitelight
rob sparx wrote:
joe muggs wrote:I respect anyone's attempts to find their way to an original way to express themselves, and it's always good when people don't want to be constrained by artificial genre boundaries in their desire to follow the creative urge.


However....


Fuck trance.
Hahah each to their own! I seen your review of the pixies in the paper yesterday - I'm sure plenty of ppl would say the same thing about indie music lol

Don't even get me started on IDM - what the fuk is that all about, 99% atonal chinstoking wank like modern art in a musical form
Hahah, IDM...You mean that genre of music where anti-social geeks keep pushing random notes on a keyboard hoping to get something musical outta it? Aphex Twin is such a lunatic.

And yeah, I'd also like to see a Goa/Dubstep fusion eventually. The closest thing I've heard so far is at 3:25 in that suomi psytrance track.

The only one of those artists I would classify as IDM is Autechre...and their live act isn't even remotely intelligent.
Well...that sounds as stupid as saying "this track isn't trance since it doesn't put me into a trance"...It's a genre's name, get over it. We all know you can also make intelligent EDM and not be an IDM producer. Not sure I wanna go into a debate about it though, specially since you seem to think that Richard D. James and Aaron Funk aren't intelligent producers O_o... Intelligent shouldn't necessarly mean "experimental to the point of not being danceable".

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:50 am
by 86.
doesn't amon tobin get thrown into the 'IDM' category? at least everything in between Adventures in Foam and Two Fingers

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:07 am
by whitelight
Well...Amon Tobin as done a lot of different things...mostly trip-hop, IDM, breaks and DnB. To be honnest, IDM is rarely "only" IDM...I mean...most of the time it's either "IDM/ambient" or "IDM/DnB"....It's a very vague term...actually, hehe.

The fact is that even though most Squapusher stuff is really good DnB, you'd have a hard time convincing me that there's not something really different between what he does and what is generally considered DnB.

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:42 am
by deepsteppa
akilles wrote:
deepsteppa wrote:
deamonds wrote:trance is soooo shit.

You havent experienced the full amount of shitness until you have walked past Es Paradise in Ibiza & heard it blaring, along with all the knobs in fluorescent yellow & ridiculously long spiked hair, flailing their arms with glow sticks outside. Thank god twice as nice was @ Eden that night.
mmmmm thats some tashty narrowmindness, a bit of salt and i'll be a happy man. eliteness, woop!
init.
i went to ibiza over summer. for the trance. and it was really good.
why not go to any club in london for twice as nice than go to ibiza?

and to be honest you get knobs in flourescent's at dubstep nights pretty much everywhere except dmz and fwd et al.
your point totally escapes me..i dunno maybe its much more different over in ireland compared to england.....unless your trying to be sarcastic...

Re: Trance/Dubstep Fusion...

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:27 am
by deamonds
akilles wrote:
deepsteppa wrote:
deamonds wrote:trance is soooo shit.

You havent experienced the full amount of shitness until you have walked past Es Paradise in Ibiza & heard it blaring, along with all the knobs in fluorescent yellow & ridiculously long spiked hair, flailing their arms with glow sticks outside. Thank god twice as nice was @ Eden that night.
mmmmm thats some tashty narrowmindness, a bit of salt and i'll be a happy man. eliteness, woop!
init.
i went to ibiza over summer. for the trance. and it was really good.
why not go to any club in london for twice as nice than go to ibiza?

and to be honest you get knobs in flourescent's at dubstep nights pretty much everywhere except dmz and fwd et al.
Well, considering I had been to defected @ Space & Swedish House Mafia @ Pacha the 2 nights before, I fancied an lighter night, with no fucking overhyped trance fraggle’s all moving there hands/jaws in my face like stnuc.