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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:08 am
by glottis5
What's the best way to sync up an acapella in FL? I'm completely useless at it.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:40 am
by mendix
dose ne 1 now were i can gt free sounds for fl 8?

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:46 pm
by relik
five-ohh-what wrote: i think i remember someone in here saying that it has been something you have been able to do in fl since fl7
Actually been around since version 4 with the audio clips only. Pattern clips were added in 7. I used 3 for the longest time just for the step sequencer and would arrange later in Acid, so when they added clip tracks in the playlist I switched to FL only. So much easier to chop and slice shit up on the quick. Great investment and can't beat the lifetime free upgrades!

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:57 pm
by relik
glottis5 wrote:What's the best way to sync up an acapella in FL? I'm completely useless at it.
Best way is to find the tempo of the acapella first and write the tune around it. When you have the audio clip in the playlist, click on the little arrow in the top left of the clip and select "detect tempo" to get the bpm automatically. This won't work if you want to write a tune with a completely different bpm.

If you already have it in a tune, you can use "fit to tempo", but if the whole acapella is just one clip, it's not going to work well and probably be off time.

It's better to chop the pella up into verses, make each unique, and manually time stretch each one over your beat and apply pitch correction. When ever I do a full acapella remix, I always chop the verses out of the pella first. It might take time, but it's the only way to do it good. There's no simple sync button/function, especially if you're writing at a completely different bpm from the original.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:19 am
by chronicrecords
Massive wobble sync automation question for FL:

In massive in FL , What would be the best way to change around the sync'd lfo speed of a wobble multiple times to mutliple speeds such as 1/4 , 1/8, 1/12, 1/16 in a 8 bar time frame and record that.

ive tried pressing the record button in FL and moving the lfo ratio thing with my mouse but it doesnt record the movements. doesnt work.

Tried Slicing different clips that were each set to a different speed, then putting them together but when i use the knife tool it cuts out large portions of my note and i cant get the wobbles to change at precise times like in between a fast 1/16th wobble... plus to do it this way is a huge amount of work if you want to change the speeds alot..

I think it would be easier if i could just record the movements of my mouse in massive somehow when im switching between speeds, so every 8 bars it will change between speeds on its own? Anyway to do anything like this ?

And if there isnt a way to do it this easily, and i have to resort to cutting and pasting a shit load, is there a way to slice ur clips extremely precisely , without removing any notes. Sorry if this is confusing, if you know what im getting at please help me with the most efficiant way, or anyway you do it. thanks!

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:27 pm
by wub
ChronicRecords wrote:Massive wobble sync automation question for FL:

In massive in FL , What would be the best way to change around the sync'd lfo speed of a wobble multiple times to mutliple speeds such as 1/4 , 1/8, 1/12, 1/16 in a 8 bar time frame and record that.

Create an automation clip and sync it yourself

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:07 pm
by POND LIFE
ChronicRecords wrote:Massive wobble sync automation question for FL:

In massive in FL , What would be the best way to change around the sync'd lfo speed of a wobble multiple times to mutliple speeds such as 1/4 , 1/8, 1/12, 1/16 in a 8 bar time frame and record that.

ive tried pressing the record button in FL and moving the lfo ratio thing with my mouse but it doesnt record the movements. doesnt work.

Tried Slicing different clips that were each set to a different speed, then putting them together but when i use the knife tool it cuts out large portions of my note and i cant get the wobbles to change at precise times like in between a fast 1/16th wobble... plus to do it this way is a huge amount of work if you want to change the speeds alot..

I think it would be easier if i could just record the movements of my mouse in massive somehow when im switching between speeds, so every 8 bars it will change between speeds on its own? Anyway to do anything like this ?

And if there isnt a way to do it this easily, and i have to resort to cutting and pasting a shit load, is there a way to slice ur clips extremely precisely , without removing any notes. Sorry if this is confusing, if you know what im getting at please help me with the most efficiant way, or anyway you do it. thanks!
err... dunno if the recording aspect is vital but I don't see why it would be, so why not:
1. tweak cutoff or whatever you're wobbling
2. think it's 'last changed parameter' or something to that effect on the top left menu
3. edit events in piano roll, then highlight sections (snap is useful) and ALT-O to draw LFOs manually.
or better yet, make an x-y controller link the cutoff to that, and edit its events, that way you can use the lfos you've drawn to control other stuff too.

this can seem like a waste of time at first, but trust me, it'll revolutionise your wobbling.

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:24 am
by chronicrecords
d1rt1989 wrote:
ChronicRecords wrote:Massive wobble sync automation question for FL:

In massive in FL , What would be the best way to change around the sync'd lfo speed of a wobble multiple times to mutliple speeds such as 1/4 , 1/8, 1/12, 1/16 in a 8 bar time frame and record that.

ive tried pressing the record button in FL and moving the lfo ratio thing with my mouse but it doesnt record the movements. doesnt work.

Tried Slicing different clips that were each set to a different speed, then putting them together but when i use the knife tool it cuts out large portions of my note and i cant get the wobbles to change at precise times like in between a fast 1/16th wobble... plus to do it this way is a huge amount of work if you want to change the speeds alot..

I think it would be easier if i could just record the movements of my mouse in massive somehow when im switching between speeds, so every 8 bars it will change between speeds on its own? Anyway to do anything like this ?

And if there isnt a way to do it this easily, and i have to resort to cutting and pasting a shit load, is there a way to slice ur clips extremely precisely , without removing any notes. Sorry if this is confusing, if you know what im getting at please help me with the most efficiant way, or anyway you do it. thanks!
err... dunno if the recording aspect is vital but I don't see why it would be, so why not:
1. tweak cutoff or whatever you're wobbling
2. think it's 'last changed parameter' or something to that effect on the top left menu
3. edit events in piano roll, then highlight sections (snap is useful) and ALT-O to draw LFOs manually.
or better yet, make an x-y controller link the cutoff to that, and edit its events, that way you can use the lfos you've drawn to control other stuff too.

this can seem like a waste of time at first, but trust me, it'll revolutionise your wobbling.
is this even possible? have you done this yourself with massive vst?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:39 pm
by slyman
ChronicRecords wrote:Massive wobble sync automation question for FL:

In massive in FL , What would be the best way to change around the sync'd lfo speed of a wobble multiple times to mutliple speeds such as 1/4 , 1/8, 1/12, 1/16 in a 8 bar time frame and record that.

ive tried pressing the record button in FL and moving the lfo ratio thing with my mouse but it doesnt record the movements. doesnt work.

Tried Slicing different clips that were each set to a different speed, then putting them together but when i use the knife tool it cuts out large portions of my note and i cant get the wobbles to change at precise times like in between a fast 1/16th wobble... plus to do it this way is a huge amount of work if you want to change the speeds alot..

I think it would be easier if i could just record the movements of my mouse in massive somehow when im switching between speeds, so every 8 bars it will change between speeds on its own? Anyway to do anything like this ?

And if there isnt a way to do it this easily, and i have to resort to cutting and pasting a shit load, is there a way to slice ur clips extremely precisely , without removing any notes. Sorry if this is confusing, if you know what im getting at please help me with the most efficiant way, or anyway you do it. thanks!
well u can hit the little sync button in the lfo section to swtich to rate then u can control it with that knob or u can edit events on the rate knob or the cutoff knob and in the piano roll or events window go to tools>lfo
http://flstudio.image-line.com/help/htm ... or_lfo.htm
read some more stuff in that manual http://flstudio.image-line.com/help
i learned a bunch of useful stuff from it like that once u make ur events u can save them as automation clips and use the link to controller function and link them to anything

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:42 pm
by ♫♪♫
Tutin wrote:I write most of my synths in 3xosc, but there's only so much you can do with 3 oscillators, does FL have anything with more oscillators that I don't have to buy? I use Reason and Ableton as well, but I'm learning how to use FL right now and was just wondering.
Well technically if you just clone the synth and run it through the same FX channel that's basically doubling the oscillators. :|

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:49 pm
by relik
ChronicRecords wrote: is this even possible? have you done this yourself with massive vst?
Yes automation is possible with massive. First, don't have it in sync. You can't automate the sync settings AFAIK. Tweak the LFO rate knob and then follow the above and goto "Last Tweaked Parameter" and select either edit events or create automation clip. If you want, you can link the LFO knob to a knob on your controller (if you have one) and record an automation clip and chop it the fuck up as you please.

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:52 pm
by slyman
Tutin wrote:I write most of my synths in 3xosc, but there's only so much you can do with 3 oscillators, does FL have anything with more oscillators that I don't have to buy? I use Reason and Ableton as well, but I'm learning how to use FL right now and was just wondering.
i was reading a useful trick for 3xosc is to put 3 of them into a layer and then u have 9 oscillators at once and i guess u can use a bunch of them because 3xosc uses very little cpu. if u need me to elaborate a little more let me kno

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:16 pm
by POND LIFE
ChronicRecords wrote:
d1rt1989 wrote:
ChronicRecords wrote:Massive wobble sync automation question for FL:

In massive in FL , What would be the best way to change around the sync'd lfo speed of a wobble multiple times to mutliple speeds such as 1/4 , 1/8, 1/12, 1/16 in a 8 bar time frame and record that.

ive tried pressing the record button in FL and moving the lfo ratio thing with my mouse but it doesnt record the movements. doesnt work.

Tried Slicing different clips that were each set to a different speed, then putting them together but when i use the knife tool it cuts out large portions of my note and i cant get the wobbles to change at precise times like in between a fast 1/16th wobble... plus to do it this way is a huge amount of work if you want to change the speeds alot..

I think it would be easier if i could just record the movements of my mouse in massive somehow when im switching between speeds, so every 8 bars it will change between speeds on its own? Anyway to do anything like this ?

And if there isnt a way to do it this easily, and i have to resort to cutting and pasting a shit load, is there a way to slice ur clips extremely precisely , without removing any notes. Sorry if this is confusing, if you know what im getting at please help me with the most efficiant way, or anyway you do it. thanks!
err... dunno if the recording aspect is vital but I don't see why it would be, so why not:
1. tweak cutoff or whatever you're wobbling
2. think it's 'last changed parameter' or something to that effect on the top left menu
3. edit events in piano roll, then highlight sections (snap is useful) and ALT-O to draw LFOs manually.
or better yet, make an x-y controller link the cutoff to that, and edit its events, that way you can use the lfos you've drawn to control other stuff too.

this can seem like a waste of time at first, but trust me, it'll revolutionise your wobbling.
is this even possible? have you done this yourself with massive vst?
what do you mean is it possible? it's really quite simple lol, i wouldn't say 'it'll revolutionise your wobbling' if i didn't do it myself...

which bit dont you get? if its finding 'last edited paramater' as i think it may actually be called, you have to click outside of the synth in the 'fruity wrapper' bit, if thats whats troubling you?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:11 am
by jsilver
Help I got a click when I press play even though I'm using ASIO with a billion samples!

Turn Reset plugins on transport off. This saved my ass.

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:52 am
by wub
slyman wrote:
Tutin wrote:I write most of my synths in 3xosc, but there's only so much you can do with 3 oscillators, does FL have anything with more oscillators that I don't have to buy? I use Reason and Ableton as well, but I'm learning how to use FL right now and was just wondering.
i was reading a useful trick for 3xosc is to put 3 of them into a layer and then u have 9 oscillators at once and i guess u can use a bunch of them because 3xosc uses very little cpu. if u need me to elaborate a little more let me kno


I recommend Biohazard as well, comes with FL (non standard though)


6 oscillators to play with :twisted:

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:05 pm
by osky
When EQing is it a good idea to use the EQUO on seperate instruments to analyse the freqs. and then use the EQUO to cut out the freqs you don't want.

just wondering if others use it because its looks pretty handy and an easy way of getting rid of frequencies u dont want, or am i doing somthing very wrong here....?

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:09 am
by POND LIFE
what does equo even do? it looks snazzy but ive never looked into using it, am i missing out?

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:59 am
by osky
d1rt1989 wrote:what does equo even do? it looks snazzy but ive never looked into using it, am i missing out?
at analyses each frequency and shows u what frequencies are being used. its good to see what frequencies may be fucking up ur mix etc. but i was wondering if its the best thing to EQ with on fl.

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:32 pm
by relik
Osky wrote: but i was wondering if its the best thing to EQ with on fl.
I usually just use PEQ2. You have more bands by default with EQUO, but you can add multiple PEQ2s to get more bands. Also, the coder's of FL have stated that EQUO colors the sound and doesn't pass the original signal - use PEQ2 for mastering/cutting freqs and EQUO as a "fancy effect".

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:37 pm
by 3za
relik wrote:
Osky wrote: but i was wondering if its the best thing to EQ with on fl.
I usually just use PEQ2. You have more bands by default with EQUO, but you can add multiple PEQ2s to get more bands. Also, the coder's of FL have stated that EQUO colors the sound and doesn't pass the original signal - use PEQ2 for mastering/cutting freqs and EQUO as a "fancy effect".
might have to get the EQUO out again last time i used it was when i found out about PEQ2 .