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Im not sure which of these replies have been aimed at me and which have been aimed at MiniFletch. I do not have a reliable source of enough income to save up and spend £300+ on anything at the moment, but I have enough money to get some kind of decks and I don't want to give up before I have even started just because of my financial situation right now. Sometimes my cashflow is better than other times and when it is I hope to spend more on vinyl - in my opinion me not having £350 to spare doesn't mean that i shouldn't have a go at DJing.

Also I am looking to mix rather than to scratch, so would this mean that these decks might be able to do the job, for now at least?

get a lappy and run a dj soft if just wanna mix tbh
then later on invest in control surface

umm, why has nobody mentioned cd decks? theres even ones that'll take a usb stick.

theres all the music in the world on the web, why limit yourself to vinyl?

vinyl sounds nicer, but a wav or aiff sounds just as loud and clear.

are dubstep dj's anti digital like their dnb brothers?

gr00veh0lmes wrote:umm, why has nobody mentioned cd decks? theres even ones that'll take a usb stick.

theres all the music in the world on the web, why limit yourself to vinyl?

vinyl sounds nicer, but a wav or aiff sounds just as loud and clear.

are dubstep dj's anti digital like their dnb brothers?

Because he said vinyl turntables...I would have mentioned Serato or something similar but he also said fuck all for cash...

gr00veh0lmes wrote:umm, why has nobody mentioned cd decks? theres even ones that'll take a usb stick.

theres all the music in the world on the web, why limit yourself to vinyl?

vinyl sounds nicer, but a wav or aiff sounds just as loud and clear.

are dubstep dj's anti digital like their dnb brothers?

cd decks are gash imo, so horrible to mix with

if you really wanna play out wavs, save up and get serato.

I do want to play vinyl though, I'm not particularly interested in CD Decks or mixing on a laptop. I've heard Ableton is good for mixing and for producing which tempted me to get that, but I'm happy with Reason 4 for producing and vinyl turns me on.
About how much money do you lot who spin vinyl spend a month on records?

try do some petty work to get more p's for 1210s, trust me it will be worth it, ive used other decks and nothing can touch 1210s.

also i recommend you investing in serato scratch in the future

sickboy leeds wrote:I do want to play vinyl though, I'm not particularly interested in CD Decks or mixing on a laptop. I've heard Ableton is good for mixing and for producing which tempted me to get that, but I'm happy with Reason 4 for producing and vinyl turns me on.
About how much money do you lot who spin vinyl spend a month on records?

It depends how much stuff is out that I want to buy (trust me, you can't have self control if there is a record in front of you that you like...."Ahh I'll just get this one, its only £6").

Probably spend between £50-£150 to be honest.

As has been mentioned, if money is an issue, you're gonna have a hard time building up a record collection. 12" records go for around £6, and it's fairly rare to find one that has heavy tunes on both sides. I've spent £350 in the last three months on records alone.

Lojik wrote:

sickboy leeds wrote:I do want to play vinyl though, I'm not particularly interested in CD Decks or mixing on a laptop. I've heard Ableton is good for mixing and for producing which tempted me to get that, but I'm happy with Reason 4 for producing and vinyl turns me on.
About how much money do you lot who spin vinyl spend a month on records?

It depends how much stuff is out that I want to buy (trust me, you can't have self control if there is a record in front of you that you like...."Ahh I'll just get this one, its only £6").

Probably spend between £50-£150 to be honest.

OMM-0910 wrote:As has been mentioned, if money is an issue, you're gonna have a hard time building up a record collection. 12" records go for around £6, and it's fairly rare to find one that has heavy tunes on both sides. I've spent £350 in the last three months on records alone.

Serato is your friend if you have these issues with money and buying records, i cop tunes for about a £1 these days off top download sites, ie junodownload, bleep, beatport and so on. plus serato gives you that vinyl feel.

lil-tee wrote:
Agree with the advice above to avoid belt drive. I basically bought the cheapest direct drive I could find, and they were great for 3 years. But when I got the opportunity to use 1210's for the first time I was amazed at the difference, didn't think it was possible for there to be such a difference in quality and torque.

I would have to disagree with the first part of that. If you can't afford direct drive technics 1200, get belt drive. Weak direct drives and 1000x worse than belt drive. I've used loads of different turntables and they all were pretty much shit except for technics. However, some shitty bottom of the line gemini belt drives were the next best. I think it was because they were so light and flimsy that the belt actually kept it going well. When you move up to something sturdier (heavier) they belt was unable to keep the platter getting back to speed. And a weak direct drive, well, I don't know how anyone can match a beat on those.

fiziks wrote:
I would have to disagree with the first part of that. If you can't afford direct drive technics 1200, get belt drive. Weak direct drives and 1000x worse than belt drive. I've used loads of different turntables and they all were pretty much shit except for technics. However, some shitty bottom of the line gemini belt drives were the next best. I think it was because they were so light and flimsy that the belt actually kept it going well. When you move up to something sturdier (heavier) they belt was unable to keep the platter getting back to speed. And a weak direct drive, well, I don't know how anyone can match a beat on those.

this is so wrong on so many levels, i don't know where to begin

Wolverine99 wrote:

OMM-0910 wrote:As has been mentioned, if money is an issue, you're gonna have a hard time building up a record collection. 12" records go for around £6, and it's fairly rare to find one that has heavy tunes on both sides. I've spent £350 in the last three months on records alone.

Serato is your friend if you have these issues with money and buying records, i cop tunes for about a £1 these days off top download sites, ie junodownload, bleep, beatport and so on. plus serato gives you that vinyl feel.

I considered it a while ago, and it sounds stupid but I couldn't justify the cost. I'm still in two minds about it. Maybe I should start putting money in a pot every time I want to buy a record, and then in 3 months I can buy serato instead...

If you know that you are in this for the long haul,I'd say get some 2nd hand 1200/1210's definately. I got some cheap direct drives about 15 years ago and have been struggling with them ever since!
I got a second hand 1210 last week from a Cash Converters type place for £210 and today copped a mint condition 1200 for £200.
I still use a Gemini mixer that I got from a boot sale for £20! Its worth buying one technics deck and then finding a really cheap deck to go with it,until you get the money for another technics.

i've been thinking about Serato a lot lately too. I'm way against going digital with CD decks, but vinyl also limits me a bit, so Serato would be a good compromise.

I met a guy with 2 barely used black mk2s, one of them has a light out and something is wrong with the ground wire, I figure those things can be fixed. I cant wait till I have the money to buy them off him though

fiziks wrote:

lil-tee wrote:
Agree with the advice above to avoid belt drive. I basically bought the cheapest direct drive I could find, and they were great for 3 years. But when I got the opportunity to use 1210's for the first time I was amazed at the difference, didn't think it was possible for there to be such a difference in quality and torque.

I would have to disagree with the first part of that. If you can't afford direct drive technics 1200, get belt drive. Weak direct drives and 1000x worse than belt drive. I've used loads of different turntables and they all were pretty much shit except for technics. However, some shitty bottom of the line gemini belt drives were the next best. I think it was because they were so light and flimsy that the belt actually kept it going well. When you move up to something sturdier (heavier) they belt was unable to keep the platter getting back to speed. And a weak direct drive, well, I don't know how anyone can match a beat on those.

Is this guy being serious? Ive read this three times and I cant decide.

Shitty gemini belt drives being the next best after technics?????? Erm no not even slightly ........

ScooterJack wrote:

fiziks wrote:
I would have to disagree with the first part of that. If you can't afford direct drive technics 1200, get belt drive. Weak direct drives and 1000x worse than belt drive. I've used loads of different turntables and they all were pretty much shit except for technics. However, some shitty bottom of the line gemini belt drives were the next best. I think it was because they were so light and flimsy that the belt actually kept it going well. When you move up to something sturdier (heavier) they belt was unable to keep the platter getting back to speed. And a weak direct drive, well, I don't know how anyone can match a beat on those.

this is so wrong on so many levels, i don't know where to begin

Agree....... WTF

Lojik wrote:

sickboy leeds wrote:I do want to play vinyl though, I'm not particularly interested in CD Decks or mixing on a laptop. I've heard Ableton is good for mixing and for producing which tempted me to get that, but I'm happy with Reason 4 for producing and vinyl turns me on.
About how much money do you lot who spin vinyl spend a month on records?

It depends how much stuff is out that I want to buy (trust me, you can't have self control if there is a record in front of you that you like...."Ahh I'll just get this one, its only £6").

Probably spend between £50-£150 to be honest.

Yeah same here.... I am a vinyl junkie.