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Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:19 am
by helix
gargantuan wrote:
sd5 wrote:Mountains are eroded by drips,
crumble and fall.
As constructs against the inevitable,
brick walls are more humble.
ahhh, this makes all the sense and changes everything: brick walls are more humble than mountains are solid...
solid contribution as always, a bit of sd5 was missing here to clutter even more the minds of the semantically challenged people
Play nice, "gargantuan".

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:21 am
by gargantuan
Helix [Delay] wrote:
gargantuan wrote:
sd5 wrote:Mountains are eroded by drips,
crumble and fall.
As constructs against the inevitable,
brick walls are more humble.
ahhh, this makes all the sense and changes everything: brick walls are more humble than mountains are solid...
solid contribution as always, a bit of sd5 was missing here to clutter even more the minds of the semantically challenged people
Play nice, "gargantuan".
i'm not sure it's possible to be correct and that kind of "nice" towards the people that are wrong. i am sure showing them the correct way is the nicest thing i can do for them, regardless how they appreciate it
alien pimp

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:18 am
by magma
You really are an insuffrable bore and the worst kind of bigot, "gargantuan".

I've obviously missed the thread where you finally got yourself banned for douchery. Congratulations.

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:39 am
by gargantuan
magma wrote:You really are an insuffrable bore and the worst kind of bigot, "gargantuan".

I've obviously missed the thread where you finally got yourself banned for douchery. Congratulations.
you know there's no arguments left to be made against you when people start attacking you personally or pretend they can't talk to a brick wall

i didn't pick on you or anybody here and kept it nice exactly to prove that no matter your attitude, when you prove people wrong they get pissed off and act like it, instead of appreciating your contribution. because nobody actually cares about the topics they debate, but how cool they can appear to others. i'm the opposite. but today there is nothing you can quote here and actually say: "this is a douchery, a nice person would've put it like this"... being nice made no difference, just proved people are cool for as long as they think they can face the debate, then freak out when they run out of ammo and start insulting, lying, victimizing themselves and all the lame tricks i know since decades

but when you're good and correct you have karma on your side too and nothing to worry :)
not even the useless ban
bring it badger! ;)

alien pimp

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:45 am
by gargantuan
edit: nevermind..

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:29 pm
by deadly_habit
you don't debate, that's the problem
when people debate, they concede points with each other, not well that exists, but i don't believe it! aka why it's pointless like arguing with a brick wall, nothing anyone says will change your mind so it's pointless to waste typing. then you go on some self righteous rant afterwards.
you like playing the martyr too, god knows what alias you'll be responding to this under next

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:08 pm
by ruckus49
BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:About as interesting as trying to figure out what happened to the square wheel
not a good analogy

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:31 pm
by BLAHBLAHJAH
I know, it was a half humoured metaphor :wink:

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:07 am
by nousd
so Giantprick is yu Pimp?
never wooda guessed if yu hadn't revealed yourself
but your Giantego got the better of you.


maybe i woodv guessed

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:07 am
by gargantuan
deadly habit wrote:you don't debate, that's the problem
when people debate, they concede points with each other, not well that exists, but i don't believe it! aka why it's pointless like arguing with a brick wall, nothing anyone says will change your mind so it's pointless to waste typing. then you go on some self righteous rant afterwards.
you like playing the martyr too, god knows what alias you'll be responding to this under next
what you don't seem to realise is that your default mindset is that i have to change my mind. chill out man, maybe you have to change your mind, how's that in the quantums world?
also i can't foresee either what's gonna be my next alias, but again it's comic that you think it's my choice to change my id's
but earlier a dude was trying sort of a mockery about how i sign my posts because i'm kind of megalomaniac
priceless fun man, wish you the same!

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:13 am
by gargantuan
sd5 wrote:so Giantprick is yu Pimp?
never wooda guessed if yu hadn't revealed yourself
but your Giantego got the better of you.


maybe i woodv guessed
one nanosecond after the word came to my mind i've foreseen such a reaction from someone like you and the next nanosecond i decided it's gonna be my id
so it's all good man, with you it's always something funny going on, not like with others, keep close!

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:39 am
by nousd
No worries matey.
I like the way yu take an insult lightly,
besides i think I get your point:

Non-religious people don't need mountains
because they're already on the rise;
neither should they over-relate to walls, brick or otherwise,
which represent the confines of established religion,
upon which, the hopes of spiritual freedom are ever dashed.


(:big up recording crew: )

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:03 am
by gargantuan
sd5 wrote:No worries matey.
I like the way yu take an insult lightly,
besides i think I get your point:

Non-religious people don't need mountains
because they're already on the rise;
neither should they over-relate to walls, brick or otherwise,
which represent the confines of established religion,
upon which, the hopes of spiritual freedom are ever dashed.


(:big up recording crew: )
told ya were cool ;)

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:52 am
by fractal
qwaycee_ wrote:i think die-hard atheists are just as annoying as die-hard religious people.
this...

i've actually been going to the temple a lot lately, although, not everyone considers buddhism a religion since i don't worship a god, per se -q-

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:45 pm
by gargantuan
gargantuan wrote: one of the 2 is very wrong
comparing someone marching for the truth with someone marching for a lie is more wrong than anything
in case it's atheists who are right, considering how marginal their voice is, their fight for making themselves heard is even more justified. so in no way comparable with the other side
so your point of view is fundamentally wrong. and harmful if it spreads
alien pimp
no, this!

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:44 pm
by nousd
fractal wrote:
qwaycee_ wrote:i think die-hard atheists are just as annoying as die-hard religious people.
this...

i've actually been going to the temple a lot lately, although, not everyone considers buddhism a religion since i don't worship a god, per se -q-
imo religion, as we use the word, doesn't need a God god;
it's a set of beliefs & practices tying us back to .... (whatever we consider primal)
Because it takes on the psycho-social trappings of host communities,
I consider Buddhism to be a religion even tho,
during zazen or theravada meditation,
the cultural context is largely irrelevant.

In a sense aetheism is religion.

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:16 am
by fractal
sd5 wrote:
In a sense aetheism is religion.

and a militant one at that! just look at the way that guy talks to people... sad

also wanted to point out that i do not follow the tenets of theravada, i float on the big raft, mahayana
most likely because of my geographic location :wink:

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:20 am
by BLAHBLAHJAH
Something to be aware of though... Atheism seems to strive to convert people away from a belief system; it wouldn't continue to exist once the goal is achieved. Religions cannot exist if they have a true ending point, other than false promises of things in an afterlife that a current life can't offer

Sure militant atheists do peoples' heads in, but that's what the world deserves with such liberal terms within 'shcizophrenia'. Makes it awkward to filter out those with actual sense

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:23 am
by fractal
true that

my belief isn't a lie though, if you look at the four noble truths and the eight-fold path, you can see that they are pretty logical really. i don't add much ceremony to it, and i don't involve deities. i just try to desire less and have compassion

if i am wrong, my life isn't harmed because of it... i might even be enriched by such beliefs!

Re: rise of non religious people

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:29 am
by BLAHBLAHJAH
Aye man, respect for that! More and more though, I'm questioning if life can be lead more effectively through constant thought, rather than returning to beliefs

from wiki

Thought
Thoughts are forms conceived in the mind, rather than the forms perceived through the five senses. Thought and thinking are the processes by which these concepts are perceived and manipulated. Thinking allows beings to model the world and to represent it according to their objectives, plans, ends and desires. Similar concepts and processes include cognition, sentience, consciousness, ideas, and imagination.[1]

Belief
Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true.[1]


Maybe I'm losing my grip on sanity, but through experience things that where once true have since become molified. I wonder some nights if [to me] 'belief' is the formaldehyde to thought

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embalming_chemicals