Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:47 pm
by logic pro
hey vulva!
ikonika had no problems with my opinion or "somebody slating her music".
BIIIG UPS to that.
my opinion counts nothing to you (and to her)!
and that is absolutely coool with me.
as an artist you shouldnt count too much on opinions anyway......
orrphan101 wrote: If your a producer or even a fan and that’s what you enjoy then more power to you no one should ever tell you what to and not to like taste is a personal decision.
joeki wrote:
tomre wrote:
joeki wrote:Flying Lotus. Face it, he's become shit.
I don't like what he's released over the last year and that's my right as a listener. And I can voice that however I like. I've noticed that people over here are incredibly personally offended by statements criticising so-called 'established' producers. I don't know why.
All releases by 'recognised' producers can't be good. You should be able to voice some criticism. It's not a personal attack at you people for listening to it. You can enjoy all releases with or without questioning them, just don't expect everyone else to do so. And especially don't act like you've been personally kicked in the balls. It doesn't come over as particularly adult.
DSF has its negatives, but the positive far outweighs that.
see, im not alone, you calling me a pussy for voicing my opinion is childish, remember theres something like taste AND EVERYONE GOT IT DIFFERENT. if i offended you (or your beloved flylo) i apologize. the worst thing i said his production is whack (remembr thats his vocabulary) and you are a calling me a pussy. tsts. think about it and have a nice day vulva (sic). edited for misquotes.
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:53 pm
by incnic
fly lo music now wack to mah ears
dsf inhabited by idiots.
prob 10-14 good people on here and the rest of you are retarded
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:17 pm
by Drop_Dead
addicted wrote:
damu wrote:as far as i'm aware, flying lotus has never been a member of the forum and has little interest in early dubstep. plenty of people know very well that this forum has done a lot for the careers of many many great artists. to say otherwise is just, well, wrong. obviously there's a lot of stupid stuff on here now but it still serves a useful purpose. music in California works in a totally different way to britain.
he's a great producer whether people appreciate his music or not. he's one of the best in the world.
however, i find him overly dismissive in interviews and in person. its a shame that he talks to ikonika like she doesn't know what she's talking about. she obviously does. flylo is a fantastic musician, but he'd do well to show a little more respect for other scenes.
blackdown compared you to zomby and now you think you're opinion is worth shit.... lol, i highly doubt you would say these things to flying lotus's face, probably wouldn't hold an audience with him anyway
Are you joking..? Everyone else has put there opinions on here without being compared to Zomby by Blackdown so why should this be anything to do with that?
Also.. tunes
Oh and I thought Ikonikas post was pretty nice, fair enough
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:37 pm
by rob sparx
ikonika wrote:I don't think I'll do any more interviews for a while because I find people tend to perceive artists in such a mythical way. We are people, so please do not hang on everything we say. Interviews for me are actually very nerve-racking, because I don't like talking about my music or pretending to be an ambassador for whatever people are labelling me at the time. I understand they are permanent and I am very slowly understanding how press works.
I do apologise for offending anyone, hate and arrogance is really not in my nature.
You've got nothing to be sorry for like a few ppl on the inet waffling means anything, you were just saying in public what EVERY producer (whatever type of music they make) says about this place in private. Easier to just not bother coming on here sometimes and risk getting sucked into another pointless argument about brostep etc too much negativity from all angles + ppl always taking things out of context getting the wrong end of the stick not that it matters.
Forums start off good but become eventually become retard magnets, scene start off positive and optimistic but quickly become tainted bitch fests
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:56 pm
by badger
why does anyone even care what flylo has to say about the forum? if you like it then great; if not then don't use it.
the fact that you lot have spent 4 pages arguing about someone's opinion is a perfect example of why flylo said what he said
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:05 pm
by Forensics
rob sparx wrote:Easier to just not bother coming on here sometimes and risk getting sucked into another pointless argument about brostep etc too much negativity from all angles + ppl always taking things out of context getting the wrong end of the stick not that it matters.
Forums start off good but become eventually become retard magnets, scene start off positive and optimistic but quickly become tainted bitch fests
That's going a bit far isn't it? You've hit the nail on the head with the 'sucked in' comment though, the only reason I bothered to post something negative on this thread was because I was already wound up by another one. A slippery slope it seems, lol!
But, having generally avoided this kind of conversation - I've always found DSF to be a friendly place, not to mention an invaluable resource.
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:15 pm
by mIrReN
rob sparx wrote:
You've got nothing to be sorry for like a few ppl on the inet waffling means, you were just saying in public what EVERY producer (whatever type of music they make) says about this place in private. Easier to just not bother coming on here sometimes and risk getting sucked into another pointless argument about brostep etc too much negativity from all angles + ppl always taking things out of context getting the wrong end of the stick not that it matters.
Forums start off good but become eventually become retard magnets, scene start off positive and optimistic but quickly become tainted bitch fests
Nice to read this
Btw if every producer says such things why the fuck u guys still follow this forum?
seckle wrote:true colors coming out in that interview. nice to see people arrogant enough to paint a whole online community of 50,000 members with the same brush.
Too much negativity but you're slating like Seckle said 50000 members, saying that every producer thinks/feels the same way, nice one Rob
Well as for being a retard, guess I won't bother visiting this forum then aight?
Owh wait now I'm being negative towards your post! Don't go all "this is what I mean with negativity" on me pl0x or wait am I getting the wrong end of the stick here o.O?
No offence to you nor any of the other producer that feels/thinks like you, I couldn't care less but maybe my questions can help you to think before generalising
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:34 pm
by damu
addicted wrote:
blackdown compared you to zomby and now you think you're opinion is worth shit.... lol, i highly doubt you would say these things to flying lotus's face, probably wouldn't hold an audience with him anyway
but thats besides the point, people in the thread need to stop acting like these were well thought out opinions being relayed by flylo and ikonika it was a relaxed and casual interview atmosphere and they were off hand meaningless comments, however, this is a good thread
i've always thought my opinion is valuable, you'd do well to learn some respect too internet big man. i highly doubt you would say these things to my face. so think before you sound stupid. on the occasions that i've spoken to flying lotus in person i've found him quickly dismissive of major trends in UK urban music, to quote the man - "yeah, everyone seems to be jumping on the house bandwagon now, what is that, like the new cool sound over here?" if that isn't relevent to this topic then i must be mistaken.
i do agree with the second bit though. he sounds well stoned in that interview.the reality is, he didn't grow up with UK urban music so probably takes it a couple of levels less seriously than people who did. just like he'd probably say that my appreciation of LA hiphop is way off cos its not what i've always been listening to.
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:44 pm
by pete_bubonic
Just wanna say as well, if you ain't here to contribute positively or think every one here is a retard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you know where the fucking door is. Out to all the people who make this place great.
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:01 pm
by flyingointment
addicted wrote: lol, i highly doubt you would say these things to flying lotus's face, probably wouldn't hold an audience with him anyway
Why wouldn't he? What he said isn't really offensive at all.
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:04 pm
by flyingointment
incnic wrote:fly lo music now wack to mah ears
Truth. Dude needs to go back to biting Dilla's discography, and not pandering to indie kids with synth-driven bullshit.
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:08 pm
by incnic
thanks for the repost
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:46 pm
by Rahul
incnic wrote:dsf inhabited by idiots.
prob 10-14 good people on here and the rest of you are retarded
incnic your the biggest idiot on the forum
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:47 pm
by addicted
damu wrote:
addicted wrote:
blackdown compared you to zomby and now you think you're opinion is worth shit.... lol, i highly doubt you would say these things to flying lotus's face, probably wouldn't hold an audience with him anyway
but thats besides the point, people in the thread need to stop acting like these were well thought out opinions being relayed by flylo and ikonika it was a relaxed and casual interview atmosphere and they were off hand meaningless comments, however, this is a good thread
i've always thought my opinion is valuable, you'd do well to learn some respect too internet big man. i highly doubt you would say these things to my face. so think before you sound stupid.
why you mad though?
Soundcloud
and this is better than anything you've ever made, when i see you in real life i def will say the same things, c unt
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:49 pm
by deamonds
ISH JUST GOT REAL¬
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:54 pm
by DZA
OHH SHIT!!!!
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:01 pm
by say_whut
The use of "my opinion" in an argument is so weak.
I wouldn't consider myself a regular here, so I'm not mad at what he is saying, his production is dope and that's all that matters to me. This is a website.
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:03 pm
by joeki
Rahul wrote:
incnic wrote:dsf inhabited by idiots.
prob 10-14 good people on here and the rest of you are retarded
incnic your the biggest idiot on the forum
I 'rate' about 10 to 14 people worldwide and think most of the populated world is retarded too....that's not so surprising. Doesn't mean you don't have to treat people with some sort of respect though.
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:15 pm
by arktrix45hz
ikonika wrote:We are all 'mere mortals' because this is all just underground music. I am not a celebrity, rock star, diva, superhero etc…
THIS x forever.
The putting on pedestals stuff is the same in any musical sub-culture and unfortunately it leads to ego breeding and idioctic statements on both sides of artist and fan.
Re: "forums are wack, dubstepforum is stupid" - flying lotus
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:16 pm
by belalala
sad when this thread starts to illustrate exactly why artists may feel that way.
take bashing each other to PMs (though i would hope you wouldn't be a prick and then post PMs publicly just to rile people up) and foster positivity, honesty and progression.