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Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:34 am
by esfandyar
burial isn't even ambient.. go listen to some gas.
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:39 am
by syrup
hasezwei wrote:skimpi wrote:LESS TREBLE MORE BASS
NO
fucking hipster
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:42 am
by Phigure
Sonika wrote:Phigure wrote:I see what you're getting at now, it was worded ambiguously though: i interpreted it as you saying burial is wank ambient and people should stop thinking he's talented, as opposed to being a statement about burial knock offs being wank (which I fully agree with)
I knew you liked burial, which is why it came across as even more retarded
there is faaaaaaar more to ambient though than just burial and burial clones
fwiw though i don't think the whole skrilly thing is irrelevant
well now you're making more sense too
I know there's far more to ambient than burial and burial clones, if you read back you'll see that I never said anything to the contrary...my attack was on the seemingly large amount of artists and tunes right now which are weak attempts at burial replication.
There's plenty of ambient pieces which aren't by burial which I love. Night Tracks keeps me up to date with a lot of that side of music. To be perfectly honest I don't like everything they post/release, but I do like a good portion of it, and they've introduced me to a lot of really great tunes and artists - for example, Kid Smpl and Ghostek.
I'd say my favorite ambient pieces are by Swarms and Stumbleine. I fucking love glo-fi/shoegaze.
P.S. If you didn't think the skrillex thread was relevant, why mention it dude?

"read it fully... bud"
I said I don't think it's irrelevant

Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:27 am
by BonerJams04
can get over how ridiculous ambient grime sounds
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:28 am
by ehbes
Reverb wrote:can get over how ridiculous ambient grime sounds
take grime track, lowpass it at 1k hz, add a ton of reverb..ambient grime ?
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:54 am
by butter_man
More - burial cover songs. Let any tnuc have a go, richard blackwood, the verve mumford n sons, daphne n celeste. Let all the greats play with the masters balls, stop hogging them with ur vinyl-sleeve-dust-hands.
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:56 am
by Sonika
butter man wrote:More - burial cover songs. Let any tnuc have a go, richard blackwood, the verve mumford n sons, daphne n celeste. Let all the greats play with the masters balls, stop hogging them with ur vinyl-sleeve-dust-hands.
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I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but I'd actually agree
I always think it's interesting to see people's instrumental takes on electronic pieces even if in my opinion they don't work out
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:00 am
by ehbes
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:02 am
by Sonika
I really don't think that statement warranted a sarcastic eye roll from you, andrew
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:06 am
by sigbowls
more bongo drums with cool efects
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:12 am
by butter_man
Sex shows with masterbatory theramins. Vocoder the o-tones of a moaning vibrato while midi converting dickslaps into a synth made out of used condoms.
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:41 am
by incnic
put the cnert on FOE IMO
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:58 am
by Hircine
this thread

Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:23 am
by Terpit
Ambient Grime

Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:52 am
by hudson
2013 needs less of this horrid thread
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:14 am
by garethom
Terpit wrote:Ambient Grime

Guessing they're talking about stuff like this...
Soundcloud
It's not as laughable as you seem to think. Fair enough if you don't like it, I can see why it might be a bit polarising, but I absolutely love this tune (was my tune of the year on my site). Compare it to the original, and it's like he's completely flipped the meaning of the tune. I've written a bit more about it here:
http://night-tracks.blogspot.com/2012/1 ... -10-1.html (Sorry for advert/spam but can't be arsed to write out what is explained in there)
Should be some more ambient-fi post-grimewave coming from me and Sangam soonish.
I love the unpolished sounding stuff like Ruff Sqwad more than most u fools on here, but also love shit like this that can take an acapella and completely recontextualise it. Strip away some of the attitude
Also, some people in here need to remember that there were plenty of people making downcast ambient music long before Burial....
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:19 am
by Terpit
The phrase sounds like an oxymoron
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:20 am
by arktrix45hz
garethom wrote:Also, some people in here need to remember that there were plenty of people making downcast ambient music long before Burial....
Truth.
Tangerine Dream. Eno. Pole. The Orb, I could go on.
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:22 am
by garethom
Why? It's ambient (or ambient-ish) music with grime vocals. It's not a perfect name, but neither are a lot of labels. What would your suggestion be?
arktrix wrote:
Tangerine Dream. Eno. Pole. The Orb, I could go on.

This! If Burial had never heard Pole - 3 I'd be surprised. Swear "Taxi" has been sampled by Burial too.
I've made some ambient stuff, and been called a Burial rip off haha, but if anything, my attempts at ambient are shaped more by Eno and Rhythm & Sound. Ambient =/= Braurauruail
Re: What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:27 am
by Terpit
Because to me, grime is not ambient at all, yes that link you posted could be called 'ambient grime' I guess although I don't personally think the vocals were particularly grimey.
Chill-grimestep sounds better imo