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Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:51 pm
by deadly_habit
chico_red wrote:
deadly habit wrote:if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's not a badger.

same sounds, same bpm different drum pattern

i love dnb, i love dubstep, but drumstep is just a really stupid term like something a hipster or scenester with no prior knowledge of either genre would come up with
Don't care who came up with it. Why does a new name hurt you so much though? Fuck hipsters and scensters as you call them.. to be honest I don't even know what they are. I have been into DnB, Dubstep since year dot and don't really pay attention to other people's opinions (as you may have noticed). I like what I like, and often appreciate what I don't like.
BTW, that Heist tune you posted ain't Drumstep! Can you really not hear the difference?
yea my ears are the ones that need to be checked
what's dnb? wait i'll take a quick stop to my garage...
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Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:54 pm
by chico_red
deadly habit wrote:
chico_red wrote:
deadly habit wrote:if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's not a badger.

same sounds, same bpm different drum pattern

i love dnb, i love dubstep, but drumstep is just a really stupid term like something a hipster or scenester with no prior knowledge of either genre would come up with
Don't care who came up with it. Why does a new name hurt you so much though? Fuck hipsters and scensters as you call them.. to be honest I don't even know what they are. I have been into DnB, Dubstep since year dot and don't really pay attention to other people's opinions (as you may have noticed). I like what I like, and often appreciate what I don't like.
BTW, that Heist tune you posted ain't Drumstep! Can you really not hear the difference?
yea my ears are the ones that need to be checked
what's dnb? wait i'll take a quick stop to my garage...
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eh? the Heist tune you posted still ain't Drumstep, no matter how many pictures of boxes you post!

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:54 pm
by parson
chico_red wrote:
parson wrote:i started making dubstep inspired half-step dnb like 4 years ago but it didn't sound anything like this stuff
cool.. what name did you release under?
it all got shelved

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:55 pm
by gwa
deadly habit wrote:
chico_red wrote:
deadly habit wrote:if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's not a badger.

same sounds, same bpm different drum pattern

i love dnb, i love dubstep, but drumstep is just a really stupid term like something a hipster or scenester with no prior knowledge of either genre would come up with
Don't care who came up with it. Why does a new name hurt you so much though? Fuck hipsters and scensters as you call them.. to be honest I don't even know what they are. I have been into DnB, Dubstep since year dot and don't really pay attention to other people's opinions (as you may have noticed). I like what I like, and often appreciate what I don't like.
BTW, that Heist tune you posted ain't Drumstep! Can you really not hear the difference?
yea my ears are the ones that need to be checked
what's dnb? wait i'll take a quick stop to my garage...
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i have that metal headz tin!!! shit i lost the disc though. :|

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:57 pm
by prisoner
hey Deadly Habit, you really shouldn't keep your vinyl like that!

it's horrible for the grooves to be stacked vertically!

8)

also, this thread is AWESOME.

p.s. also, also, do they make drumfunk drumstep? :mrgreen:

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:59 pm
by deadly_habit
chico_red wrote:
deadly habit wrote:
chico_red wrote:
deadly habit wrote:if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's not a badger.

same sounds, same bpm different drum pattern

i love dnb, i love dubstep, but drumstep is just a really stupid term like something a hipster or scenester with no prior knowledge of either genre would come up with
Don't care who came up with it. Why does a new name hurt you so much though? Fuck hipsters and scensters as you call them.. to be honest I don't even know what they are. I have been into DnB, Dubstep since year dot and don't really pay attention to other people's opinions (as you may have noticed). I like what I like, and often appreciate what I don't like.
BTW, that Heist tune you posted ain't Drumstep! Can you really not hear the difference?
yea my ears are the ones that need to be checked
what's dnb? wait i'll take a quick stop to my garage...
Image
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eh? the Heist tune you posted still ain't Drumstep, no matter how many pictures of boxes you post!
that's because it's dnb same as the one posted earlier in this thread, i was pointing out the only difference between the two is the drum pattern
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@ prisoner i know i just pulled some out from sideways mode to show a couple of em instead of just a row of sleeves ;)

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:11 pm
by mista_fox
krakfox wrote:
mista fox wrote:
chico_red wrote:
parson wrote:i started making dubstep inspired half-step dnb like 4 years ago but it didn't sound anything like this stuff
cool.. what name did you release under?


:u:
pretty sure that parson an pearson sound are completely different people...pearson sound is ramadanman and unless if he's living a double life as a texan, parson is not the same person as pearson, this ain't a par...son 8)
Damn, you're right :o That's awkward :oops:

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:38 pm
by fractal
chico_red wrote:
fractal wrote:am i crazy or is chico red the new rinseballs? kid chats bare nonsense

how can you even be on this forum and not know scuba, or even hotflush for that matter... what a joke
Scuba isn't my thing. And I have many Hotflush vinyls from 2004. Wanna buy them?
So, what you are saying is that you do not like scuba's production but you do own and support the selection of tunes be picked to release under his label? Sorry to be a bit pedantic, I just can't seem to make sense of a majority of your posts... Do I want to buy them? Um, no thanks, there is a buy/sell thread on here though if that's your aim. Are any of your thoughts linear? Bit strange to offer to sell wax in the middle of a discussion

Here's a fair question: what makes a tune "liquid"? Does that make the other styles "solid"?

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:41 pm
by pr0paganja
mt eden wrote:
pr0paganja wrote:

This is the only one HALFSTEP D'N'B track i like.Its very filth :P
FIXED
I think its easier to say drumstep than halfstep d'n'b ,isnt it?

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:44 pm
by fractal
or we can all just say bass music and no longer argue about silly names and nonsensical adjectives



:w:

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:45 pm
by chico_red
fractal wrote:
chico_red wrote:
fractal wrote:am i crazy or is chico red the new rinseballs? kid chats bare nonsense

how can you even be on this forum and not know scuba, or even hotflush for that matter... what a joke
Scuba isn't my thing. And I have many Hotflush vinyls from 2004. Wanna buy them?
So, what you are saying is that you do not like scuba's production but you do own and support the selection of tunes be picked to release under his label? Sorry to be a bit pedantic, I just can't seem to make sense of a majority of your posts... Do I want to buy them? Um, no thanks, there is a buy/sell thread on here though if that's your aim. Are any of your thoughts linear? Bit strange to offer to sell wax in the middle of a discussion

Here's a fair question: what makes a tune "liquid"? Does that make the other styles "solid"?
re: liquid - don't know, don't care... I didn't start the thread. Does that term bother you too?
And Hotflush were very bass heavy back in '04. I haven't bought one for a while. My offer of sale was by the by... the only vinyls I regret buying and would want to sell are some dodgy garage boots!

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:47 pm
by fractal
why would a term bother me? i would just like to understand the use and application of it. never understood it when they applied it to dnb, don't understand it now. it's like calling a style of music "intelligent", just makes me wonder what people mean is all

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:48 pm
by chico_red
fractal wrote:or we can all just say bass music and no longer argue about silly names and nonsensical adjectives
so when descibing to a friend what tune a DJ played at the end of his set.. you can just say "bass music"? Genres names are there just as descriptive terms. It makes shopping for and finding tunes easier.. that's all.

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:49 pm
by fractal
chico_red wrote:
fractal wrote:or we can all just say bass music and no longer argue about silly names and nonsensical adjectives
so when descibing to a friend what tune a DJ played at the end of his set.. you can just say "bass music"? Genres names are there just as descriptive terms. It makes shopping for and finding tunes easier.. that's all.
no i would describe the sound, time signature, beat pattern and melody... also the use of samples if i spot them... i don't think i could say liquid drumfunk and have the other person understand me :lol:

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:22 pm
by wooda916
what a stupid name for a non-genre.

Its just drum and bass except half step. its nothing new its been around for ages and it doesn't need defining and setting aside as a separate thing.

Heres a mix by a guy called Dabbler posted on here in 2008 thats all 170 half step beats.

http://www.dubstepforum.com/topic59117.html

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:23 pm
by deadly_habit
next time i chat with heist on aim i'll ask him his take on it and post the convo here if it's cool with him

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:49 pm
by elibomyekip
Like... This is from 1997



This is from 2010



To me, and non-idiots, it's the same thing. It's not new.

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:51 pm
by kinggraham
this is almost as bad as the 'joystep' thing a while ago.

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:07 pm
by therapist
Quality thread. I'm torn between agreeing that genre names really are useful and just hating the term drum-step so much.

Re: Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:14 pm
by prisoner
fractal wrote:
chico_red wrote:
fractal wrote:
Here's a fair question: what makes a tune "liquid"? Does that make the other styles "solid"?
liquid has rhodes pianos.

DUH.

:mrgreen: