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Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:16 pm
by snoopexx
@mouldysoul - banging tune man, feelin that ryt to the end! love the little piano reggae style thing at about 1 min. nice kind of jazzy feel nearer the end aswel keep it up!

any feedback on this would be much appreciated, its not mixed down or anything and its stil early stages..
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cheers

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:24 pm
by Mouldy Soul
@Airiabam, that was the best piece of feedback anyone has ever given me thank you, :bow: :) Really know whaat you mean about the static tembre, it's just I've tried a few effects like phasing and ring mod but becasue it's quite a thin sound in very specific band of frequencies it sounds kinda shit, but I've had people nagging me to chuck some more layers in, I might try cutting all the guitar parts up and quantising it all to the beat, as opposed to the played in thing it is there, maybe that will help it gel in the mix better but seriously cheers, great feedback :)

About progging your track I had a listen agin, and what I reckon you could do is separate the parts into different sections for easier mixing, like all the ones you want being percussive chuck em all to a bus, and high pass the lot the so you take out all the lows, then you have space for your bass. I reckon some other crazy minimal synths could come in instead of that repeated one, or open the filter on it gradually so it changes tembre as you put it, like the glitches maybe you can some more question and answer with a synth and the glitch, and try and articulate back and fourth, but definite cutting of the lows that arent the bass and maybe some compression to stop peaking innit :)

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:30 pm
by Mouldy Soul
@snoopexx, nice dark vibes you got going, really nicely controlled bass, maybe add to the ambience the bass is creating by some noisey reals sort of sounds with reverb and filter maybe, just to add some layers, or maybe chuck the snare through some reverb just for one old skool reggae sort of hit innit, reckon and nice pad and bell type melody kinda eery would fit well, nothing too complex, maybe maybe it then reverse it see what happes :) Just a thought though :) Dirty stuff though liking the darker vibes overall just reckon you could develop some other sections that compliment it at the same time, but I look forward to hearing what you do with it :)

Peace :)

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:42 pm
by J 13
Hello all. I'm new here, plz excuse my poor etiquette until I am better accustomed to the way things are done. I would like to get some feedback for this track, if anyone has the time plz.

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:54 pm
by Mouldy Soul
@J 13, the way it usually works is if you're new you have to give feedback on at least three tracks before posting innit :) But I like you tune very jean michelle jarre, nice ambience, but I could give you better feedback and others will be more inclined if you comment on at least three other tracks before hand. Etiquette innit, and it says it in the first post of this thread btw.

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:02 pm
by J 13
@ Mouldy Soul, Thanks for the heads up :) I'm diggin your track. It's got a nice vibe to it. The beginning quarter works well, however it seems to get a little bit repetitive during the 2nd quarter. I 'm feeling like this comes from the rhythmic effects. Even though they add interesting feel to the bass, I think they overpower the little bits that make the track interesting. It may be interesting if you introduce the guitar earlier with just a couple teaser notes here and there. I feel like the guitar has to compete a little bit much with the effects. The guitar should be the focus at that point- more guitar please :) Same goes for the ending. Good work thus far.

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:28 pm
by J 13
@ Snoopexx, For being in its early stages, those are some wonderful sounds you got going on. It definitely is missin a hook though-somethin to keep you curious about what's next, you know. I'm just imagining some chainsaw weilding psycho coming out of the shadows to lop off your punkin sounds :twisted: I like that sharp wob that cuts the bass up, well done.

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:52 pm
by J 13
@ Bradicle Nice and smooth track you got going on. Nice ambience, nice instrument choices. The bass does overpower a bit and causes some distortion among the rest of the track. Just that little tweak and you've got a fine liquid track :)

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:24 am
by bradicle
@Mouldy Soul. Thanks for feed back bud. Yea fair enough. I've put them in there quite a bit just to put some feel to the track aswell. Bit girly, but nice n relaxing. Will take a couple out and see how it goes :). I'm going to make the 2nd breakdown a bit longer also. Beef up the drums.

On yours. Im liking it, nice vibe too it. Only thing i would do, maybe change the bass a little, just seemed like it was on repeat to me. Drums sound nice. :D

@J 13. Cheers man. I've beefed the drums up quite alot. And it seems to be sitting with the bass. Also turned the bass down a little.

Yours is sounding tight. Only thing, that high pitch synth kinda gets a bit annoying. Like real highpitched if ya get me? Maybe use it, but change to something else that's a bit more soothing. Seems like some kind of fidget synth that rapes your ears :P

Oh and btw. When you say distorting you mean when the bass goes up quite a high note? I've got bitcrusher on it which could be it?

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:09 am
by HAACK
Already made a few comments in the prior post, just scrapped this tune and started over again, primarily wondering if the mids are sitting well together?? Any other comments are always appreciated, cheers for the feedback and tips!

:D

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Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:32 am
by bradicle
Re-uploaded. Drums perked up. Bass down. Sorted out synth. Longer breakdown/variation etc. :)

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:50 am
by mmjdw
bradicle wrote:Re-uploaded. Drums perked up. Bass down. Sorted out synth. Longer breakdown/variation etc. :)
I like the pads and buildup, but I feel the snare has too much of that 200hz ringyness. Maybe try swapping the sample out for something snappier. I like the melodies/harmonies etc in the main part.
I didn't see the original, but maybe the breakdown is a bit too long (it's a whole minute, about a quarter of the track).
HAACK wrote:Already made a few comments in the prior post, just scrapped this tune and started over again, primarily wondering if the mids are sitting well together?? Any other comments are always appreciated, cheers for the feedback and tips!

:D
Mids seem ok. Thought the distorted bass that comes in needed more highpassed verb or delay. Not much variation.
J 13 wrote:Hello all. I'm new here, plz excuse my poor etiquette until I am better accustomed to the way things are done. I would like to get some feedback for this track, if anyone has the time plz.
Maybe too much reverb on (at least) the lower drums, kick toms etc which makes it a bit muddy. You could boost the volume of the drums or automate them to crescendo (big word).

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Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:12 pm
by J 13
@ Bradicle, that made a nice difference.
@ mmjdw, while I appreciate the advice, there's no need to deride my intelligence with (big word).

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:42 pm
by JBE
bradicle wrote:Re-uploaded. Drums perked up. Bass down. Sorted out synth. Longer breakdown/variation etc. :)
This does not need a longer breakdown. As a matter of fact it needs less of one. It really sounds like you're trying to create a track with big energy but you never really take it there.

The second part needs some sort of a change. It looks like you just copy and pasted the first part of the song and stuck it at the end just to have it done. New bass, melody, pad, beat, something should be added there to vary it up a bit from the first part.

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:09 pm
by mmjdw
J 13 wrote:@ Bradicle, that made a nice difference.
@ mmjdw, while I appreciate the advice, there's no need to deride my intelligence with (big word).
was just joking (Definitions of joking on the Web:

* jesting: characterized by jokes and good humor)

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:37 pm
by tomm
mmjdw: really feeling that one man. bass line is great. the "guitar" (?) works really well. adds to the smoothness. like the perc as well.

HAACK: good basis for a track but as has been said it could use some mixing up, maybe making it more dynamic too.





my latest effort here. could use a lot of work but its something to run with i reckon.
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Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:56 pm
by Mouldy Soul
@ tomm, nice tune, nice and proggy like it :) Reckon the drums could up in the mix a bit, nice reggae vibe to it, reckon you could progress the sections a little more, but it's a really nice floaty ambient piece and works well as it is :) Reckon you could do some crazy dub delay stuff with the chords, just make a feedback loop and filter it n stuff. reckon you could have some twinkly melody, some sort of bell sound to complement what you've already got going innit. really nice work though mate, would love to hear it when it's finished :)

@mmjdw, nice choon, reckon the drums could come down really slightly just the bongos, reckon they're louder that the snare, but maybe down to personal preference. really like the rhythms in this and the old skool reggae vibe almost like monkey island soundtrack if you've ever played it, really cool though loving the spacious feel of the track, reckon the guitar could come up a bit, and more of an emphasis on the highs :) Maybe jig up the last section change something or add something in :)

@J 13 Cool track, would like some more ambience at the intro one pad sound doesn't do it for me, get a load of different layers and textures going on, nice use of sounds, but they sound a bit too bread and butter innit.

@JBE, really nice track, love the sounds you've used, maybe layer one or two to create a bigger ambience, but really cool melodic ideas, gives a emotion reaction, could imagine it in a film innit :) Good works overall, reckon you could have a few more layers of percussion in a few sections to round em out. really nice vibe though digging it :)

Can i get some feedback on this please, favours will be returned innit :)

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Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:44 pm
by ObsidiaMusic
@Snoopex : I think I agree with what someone else has already said. It feels like its missing some type of hook. I think some variation in the drums would also give the track some more 'excitement' too.

@HAACK : I suck at giving advice to minimal sounding Dubstep. I don't know like anything about it, but maybe add more variation on the drums, although that's just my preference as I dislike repetetive drums.

@Mouldy Soul : I love the last 20 seconds! It's not my style though, so I can't really say much else, although I do think the track as a whole needs slightly more reverb.

This is another new track that I have started, still in its early stages, but any feedback would be appreciated!

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I was wondering, do you think my basses are too 'noisy' or maybe 'harsh' ? It's not too painful to listen to... is it?

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:28 pm
by bradicle
JBE wrote:
bradicle wrote:Re-uploaded. Drums perked up. Bass down. Sorted out synth. Longer breakdown/variation etc. :)
This does not need a longer breakdown. As a matter of fact it needs less of one. It really sounds like you're trying to create a track with big energy but you never really take it there.

The second part needs some sort of a change. It looks like you just copy and pasted the first part of the song and stuck it at the end just to have it done. New bass, melody, pad, beat, something should be added there to vary it up a bit from the first part.
Cheers mate. I'm getting mixed signals. Alot of people are liking with the long breakdown, some don't. Spose it's up to me now. The track isn't made for club use more so chill out too. I found when I did change the 2nd half of the song (When i was trying too) it sounded like I was trying to do to much. With the 2nd drop i've just put all the melodies on the drop instead of coming half way through so it sounds like it has a change in there.

Thanks for the heads up though, all this feedback has helped shitloads.

And your tune. Dude that is dope. Those drums are perfect. People saying they dont like the wobble. That gives it so much more character in the tune that just a sub. The tune has feeling to it. Like real emotional feeling. Love it dude, big up.

Re: WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for JULY, 2010

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:14 pm
by mmjdw
Mouldy Soul wrote:
Can i get some feedback on this please, favours will be returned innit :)

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Like the ambient warped pad sound and delays as it drops. Bassline is good. I'm thinking maybe adding a more garagey sounding snare (sort of that rimshot style) after 8 bars have dropped would help add a bit of energy, the current "snare" is a bit weak after a while. I like the gating at at the end too, but its maybe a bit too crazy, maybe dropping the intensity or depth setting on it would help or just reducing the amount of stuff that it's on (I can't tell exactly which instruments are being effected, whether the drums are being gated too).
ObsidiaMusic wrote:
This is another new track that I have started, still in its early stages, but any feedback would be appreciated!

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I was wondering, do you think my basses are too 'noisy' or maybe 'harsh' ? It's not too painful to listen to... is it?
I think the Kick is too weak/ maybe just quiet. Perhaps the midrange bass can come down a little, I don't think it's harsh but maybe unbalanced a little. Perhaps raising the kick volume or re-mixing each track completely would help balance is a bit more.

But I like the arrangement, do the usual stuff to it, intro bassline, change bassline up, breakdown, drop with different bass pattern etc.

Also liking the NS primal scream sample. Don't know if it was intentional or whether you got it from a pack :)
tomm wrote: my latest effort here. could use a lot of work but its something to run with i reckon.
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Again, feels like the kick is a bit weak/quiet.

The snare feels quite... cheesy? A bit like you've used the default samples on Fruity Loops or something. I'd recommend using some different, snappier samples. Also feels a little bit too "mono", not sure whether you haven't used stereo verb/delay or whether you've used so much that it becomes impossible to tell.
I do really like the bassline, as well as the delayed snares in the background and the percussion that comes in halfway. I think your pad could do with some stereo widening on it as well as a bit of eq/highpass filter around 100-200Hz to take a bit of muddyness away, or maybe it is just the reverb and delays. Have you tried highpassing or EQing the reverb and delay bus channels? Doing it around 100-300Hz can make the verb better, and you can even go up to 1000HZ for a really empty sounding reverb that just adds a bit of needed high frequency noise. Try not adding so much reverb on everything - tone the amount down by 6-12dB and see if it effects the mix in a good or bad way.
I'm not sure whether it needs to be 9minutes long either - could probably try condensing it down to about 6? That would make it more concise but keep the ambient feel of it.