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Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:52 pm
by kay
boxxy wrote:what's the word that means old rice? Sounds like "low faun" and it's what all the old people in my wife's family call white people.... :lol:
"Looh Faan" or "looh mye"? Never heard that one before. Interestingly, "faan looh" means something like "mental bother/trouble". "Looh Paan" is "boss".

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:01 pm
by boxxy
kay wrote:
boxxy wrote:what's the word that means old rice? Sounds like "low faun" and it's what all the old people in my wife's family call white people.... :lol:
"Looh Faan" or "looh mye"? Never heard that one before. Interestingly, "faan looh" means something like "mental bother/trouble". "Looh Paan" is "boss".

they're from Toisan (or Taishan in mandarin), maybe it's a local slang

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:43 am
by kay
Probably. I have no idea where that is lol

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:10 am
by Intended Malice
I'd let it slide, I think as a foreigner getting the HK police to side with you for anything will be difficult if they get involved. I think that racism in all Asian cultures is kind of expected, I've had to do business with with my fair share of Philippinos, and most were the typical Pinoy power/pride idiots, funny thing is I'm Spaniard and I could understand most of their swear words because their/your language is derived from Castilian. They thought I was white.

I don't know, I get mixed results from the public be it white or Asian, most think I'm just white; the other day I went surfing and some birds tried to flag me down with the typical 'woooo!' out the window and slow down, I just waved and kept on walking (I'm not some whore to be flagged down!), then I chatted with a few Japanese on the way to my surf spot, and they were impressed I could even tell they were Japanese, they all began to do the 'ehh!' gasp when I started to speak to them in Japanese--one even clapped! (They asked if I was Japanese after that.) Then on the way home I got some white dude sitting at a stop sign telling me how my board sucks (longboard), and some other stupid stuff. I just kept on walking not really giving it any mind.

I just let it roll. My maxim is that the only time worth getting violent or even remotely belligerent is when my Rights are being violated, the last two that violated my property rights found that out the hard way.

Face it, you were a foreigner in Hong Kong, these things happen; if its any consolation look at how the Chinese deal with their own kind, its fucking barbaric--being yelled at is quite mild from what I have seen at my favorite dim sum parking lot, let alone private affairs I have had the displeasure of encountering. The Paki thing is... well, kind of odd considering the population density is favored to one side by a great margin, and it isn't Arabs. And many Chinese are actually quite dark when the smog subsides (never happens) and exposes some sun on their otherwise ill looking skin. But there is nothing more insane than trying to argue logically with the ignorant and incomprehensibly inept. I'm sure that considering you're British and not a Paki after having spoken to you never crossed his/her mind, let alone that Hong Kong was a British colony up until the late 20th century.

PS: I know much of that wasn't race related, and focused more on the acceptance/inclination of said races, but truth be told I haven't been in such a situation for a while, apparently the last time it happened I was like 9 and got spit on by a ghetto black girl. I was so in shock about it I totally blocked it out of my mind until a relative told me 12 years later how she began to fight her as she was with me. Nuts.

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:48 am
by kay
I've been thinking a bit about reverse-racism recently. Basically, people fawning over other people of particular races. We've heard here how oriental society can be culturally racist. But, you also find the complete reverse to be true, where some chinese will literally put a white person on a pedestal, bowing and scraping before them and treating other chinese people in the vicinity with disdain.

Is that any better?

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:23 am
by HRKRT
kay wrote:I've been thinking a bit about reverse-racism recently. Basically, people fawning over other people of particular races. We've heard here how oriental society can be culturally racist. But, you also find the complete reverse to be true, where some chinese will literally put a white person on a pedestal, bowing and scraping before them and treating other chinese people in the vicinity with disdain.

Is that any better?

thats like postive discrimination, no better at all

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:45 am
by sirsnaf
boxxy wrote:
kay wrote:
boxxy wrote:what's the word that means old rice? Sounds like "low faun" and it's what all the old people in my wife's family call white people.... :lol:
"Looh Faan" or "looh mye"? Never heard that one before. Interestingly, "faan looh" means something like "mental bother/trouble". "Looh Paan" is "boss".

they're from Toisan (or Taishan in mandarin), maybe it's a local slang

itll be 'lao fan'

lao = old, fan = rice or food :wink:

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:50 pm
by the acid never lies
HRKRT wrote:
kay wrote:I've been thinking a bit about reverse-racism recently. Basically, people fawning over other people of particular races. We've heard here how oriental society can be culturally racist. But, you also find the complete reverse to be true, where some chinese will literally put a white person on a pedestal, bowing and scraping before them and treating other chinese people in the vicinity with disdain.

Is that any better?

thats like postive discrimination, no better at all
I wouldn't say that's "positive discrimination" (a term I despise by the way)

Surely it's just the flip side of having a racialised view of the world

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:01 pm
by faust.dtc
kay wrote:
boxxy wrote:what's the word that means old rice? Sounds like "low faun" and it's what all the old people in my wife's family call white people.... :lol:
"Looh Faan" or "looh mye"? Never heard that one before. Interestingly, "faan looh" means something like "mental bother/trouble". "Looh Paan" is "boss".

Kay, what is the translation for what the Chinese call white and black people. Forgive my spelling but it sounds like gwylo and hukwi...but I could be well off.





Personally I would react to racism with a big smile.

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Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:54 pm
by FSTZ
when I first moved to Kansas City from San Diego, I was amazed by the amount of racism by both black people and white people.

one time I was on my way to the club and some guy, who wasn't homeless asks me for money (this happens everytime I go to get gas, a beverage, go to the drugstore, etc...)

I told the guy I didn't have any money, and the guy starts yelling at me like "F**K YOU! go to your klan rally meeting you fu**ing cracker"

all because I didn't have any money to share with this guy

I grew up in a military neighborhood and everyone got along, black, white, polyneisian, asian, and hispanic so this was a total shock to me

the midwest is seriously 20 years behind socially.

it's quite sad

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:46 pm
by kay
faust.dtc wrote:
kay wrote:
boxxy wrote:what's the word that means old rice? Sounds like "low faun" and it's what all the old people in my wife's family call white people.... :lol:
"Looh Faan" or "looh mye"? Never heard that one before. Interestingly, "faan looh" means something like "mental bother/trouble". "Looh Paan" is "boss".

Kay, what is the translation for what the Chinese call white and black people. Forgive my spelling but it sounds like gwylo and hukwi...but I could be well off.
White people = gwai lo (ghost man), bak gwai (white ghost), bak lo (white man), hoong moh gwai (red fur ghost), hoong moh yan (red fur human)
Black people = huck gwai (black ghost), huck lo (black man), huck yan (black human)

Generally, anyone non-chinese can have either "gwai" or "yan" tagged behind the racial descriptor. "yan" being more polite, of course.

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:48 pm
by firky
Do Chinese people really call Caucasians 'wound eyed picks' or does that only happen in 1970 comedies set in Hull?

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:08 pm
by Rekah
faust.dtc wrote:
kay wrote:
boxxy wrote:what's the word that means old rice? Sounds like "low faun" and it's what all the old people in my wife's family call white people.... :lol:
"Looh Faan" or "looh mye"? Never heard that one before. Interestingly, "faan looh" means something like "mental bother/trouble". "Looh Paan" is "boss".

Kay, what is the translation for what the Chinese call white and black people. Forgive my spelling but it sounds like gwylo and hukwi...but I could be well off.





Personally I would react to racism with a big smile.

Image
:o :lol: wow to that pic made me actually laugh out loud

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:14 pm
by firky
Rekah wrote:
faust.dtc wrote:
kay wrote:
boxxy wrote:what's the word that means old rice? Sounds like "low faun" and it's what all the old people in my wife's family call white people.... :lol:
"Looh Faan" or "looh mye"? Never heard that one before. Interestingly, "faan looh" means something like "mental bother/trouble". "Looh Paan" is "boss".

Kay, what is the translation for what the Chinese call white and black people. Forgive my spelling but it sounds like gwylo and hukwi...but I could be well off.





Personally I would react to racism with a big smile.

Image
:o :lol: wow to that pic made me actually laugh out loud
:(

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:15 pm
by Rekah
firky wrote:
Rekah wrote:
faust.dtc wrote:
kay wrote:
boxxy wrote:what's the word that means old rice? Sounds like "low faun" and it's what all the old people in my wife's family call white people.... :lol:
"Looh Faan" or "looh mye"? Never heard that one before. Interestingly, "faan looh" means something like "mental bother/trouble". "Looh Paan" is "boss".

Kay, what is the translation for what the Chinese call white and black people. Forgive my spelling but it sounds like gwylo and hukwi...but I could be well off.





Personally I would react to racism with a big smile.

Image
:o :lol: wow to that pic made me actually laugh out loud
:(
why the sad face

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:18 pm
by noam
he thinks you racisted the thread

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:20 pm
by Rekah
noam wrote:he thinks you racisted the thread
oh dear to be honest its just the expression on his face that made me laugh, it could be anyone from any race doing that face and i would still laugh

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:23 pm
by noam
its probably funnier cos it a dude minstrelled up tho...lets be honest, i LOL'd

Re: How would you react to racism?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:25 pm
by Rekah
noam wrote:its probably funnier cos it a dude minstrelled up tho...lets be honest, i LOL'd
you know its true :lol: