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So, like he said, you wont be able to hear a couple hz pitch change. Unless you have perfect pitch. 3hz might be like 1cent. Which is like 1/100th of a semitone. Or 1/50th, depending on how you look at it.

A = 440hz. A# = 466hz. B = 495hz. So on and so forth. Theres a formula to it, but ill be damned if i know it.

Triphosphate wrote:

BrainSick wrote:

Triphosphate wrote:

BrainSick wrote:Basically the effect makes the pitch of the voice adjustable. I lowered the pitch about 3 db (I think)

I suspect you mean 3 semitones or octaves. Not coming down on you for it or anything. Just saying that you need to gain a good understanding of the terminology you're using so that you can understand what you might hear in a video and communicate successfully with other producers. Decibels is a measurement of loudness/amplitude. Octave/Semitones/Hertz are a measurement of frequency=pitch.

Ah! Hz is what I meant. Couldn't think of it at hand. Sorry, like I said I'm getting used to the terminology. So yes, it was -3Hz. Any idea how to clean them up? When I lowered it, it gave it slight tistortion and obviously the pitch changed making it harder to understand. If you know what the vox are saying, you understand it. I let a couple people listen and they got it for the most part, but I want it to be clearer.

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Not 3 hz... if you changed the pitch by 3 hertz you wouldn't notice. 3 semitones or 3 octaves. a semitone is like a key on the keyboard, there are 12 of them per octave and every octave represents a doubling of the hertz. 880 Hz which is A5 is one octave above A4 at 440 Hz. There are 12 semitones equidistantly placed between these logarithmic octaves.

The understandability of the human voice lies somewhere between 4000 and 8000 hz. I would try boosting this range in your vocal signal BEFORE you apply pitch processing. If you do it after, this frequency range will move down too.

Also, I edited in some more answers to your questions in my above post.

So maybe I should EQ that frequency? Then add the effect? I am pretty sure there's a way I can add EQ to the audio without effecting the effect. So I won't have to take my effect off and re-add it, right?

@BrainSick...you totally confused, bewildered and crushed by all the info in this thread? ;p

Yes. This is fundamental signal chaining, and in practice it may vary depending on what DAW you use. But functionally what you want to do is have ths EQ before the pitch shift. Make a boost of 3db or 6db between 4000 and 8000 and sweep it between this range until it sounds more understandeable, then route it through the pitch shifter. Or better yet, with the pitch shifter on, sweep between 4000 and 8000 with an EQ boost and see if it helps your understandability problem.

The order in which you place effects or plugins can have a drastic effect on the sound.

Edit: the reason I say 3db and 6db is because 3db is the average listeners threshold for dynamic change, and 6db is a doubling of volume. Until your ears get better trained, try working in 3s for volume changes.

@fragments: LOL

fragments wrote:@BrainSick...you totally confused, bewildered and crushed by all the info in this thread? ;p

More like totally stoked af, trying to soak it all in and just glad I'm getting good feedback from people who know this stuff. Like I said, better than watching someone do something and not getting answers to WHY they did it or what it means. Regardless of genre, to me, this has been the BEST place for learning and developing. Useful tool for when I'm at work so all I can do is research, communicate and learn!! Although, when I know I'm asking stupid questions and I get a and then response, it's funny in a way but also puts into perspective how far off I am.... I appreciate all the time you all spent coming back and responding and putting in effort to help someone who may seem like a lost cause due to my lack of knowledge. 80 something comments and counting... I think I'm doing well!!!!!!

fragments wrote:@BrainSick...you totally confused, bewildered and crushed by all the info in this thread? ;p

At least hes gotten this far without linking wobble boss...

BrainSick wrote:

i often wonder, how many of you americans on production boards know who this guy actually is?

not to mention these guys lol

I recognize the guy in the green suit, but don't know his name. He is either an actual journalist from Granada or he is an actor who played that journalist in a movie I saw once, lol.

@BrainSick: good to hear man.

@Crimsonghost: fucking wobbeboss...cracks me up every time...I wonder how many sales they get from lurkers on DSF Production even after we all mock it...

hutyluty wrote:

BrainSick wrote:

i often wonder, how many of you americans on production boards know who this guy actually is?

not to mention these guys lol

nope nope nope. Bollocks, you limey wankers are always trying to take the piss out of us Yankees.

Triphosphate wrote:

hutyluty wrote:

BrainSick wrote:

i often wonder, how many of you americans on production boards know who this guy actually is?

not to mention these guys lol

nope nope nope. Bollocks, you limey wankers are always trying to take the piss out of us Yankees.

This has to be the best site ever known to mankind. Anybody interested in assisting me with my production PLEASE PM ME! Maybe we can skype or something! Or send me to someone who is!

Crimsonghost wrote:

Triphosphate wrote:

hutyluty wrote:

BrainSick wrote:

i often wonder, how many of you americans on production boards know who this guy actually is?

not to mention these guys lol

nope nope nope. Bollocks, you limey wankers are always trying to take the piss out of us Yankees.

horsepower productions
alan partridge
neil and christine hamilton (i think? haha)

hutyluty wrote:



horsepower productions
alan partridge
neil and christine hamilton (i think? haha)

Now we know! and knowing is half the battle

BrainSick wrote:This has to be the best site ever known to mankind. Anybody interested in assisting me with my production PLEASE PM ME! Maybe we can skype or something! Or send me to someone who is!

PM me anytime you want. I don't skype frequently, but if you'd like I can fire up my livestream and walk you through stuff visually and you can bombard me with questions in chat.

You sir, are a champ!

Won't let me PM you for some reason? Says user does not exist?

I sent you a PM, see if you can reply... Hopefully that works if I haven't been deleted from reality.

hutyluty wrote:

BrainSick wrote:

i often wonder, how many of you americans on production boards know who this guy actually is?

not to mention these guys lol

Allow me to retort:



OP, I'd work from the start to the end in terms of what you learn. Much like the order you'd take to produce a track. Composition and sound design first, then arrangement, then mixing, then mastering. Otherwise you're just gonna confuse yourself with compression ratios before you know a comb from a bandpass.

Also read the fucking manual and google is your friend.

For pitch shifting, try out different algorithms. A lot of times there will be various options for percussion vs vocal, preserving transients or formants, the pitch range of the original, etc.

mromgwtf wrote:

Ocelots Revolver wrote:

mromgwtf wrote:Another tip: Back in time when I was a shitty producer (I'm not good now but I have some experience now ), to make my track not clip, instead of gently compressing different busses and playing with their volumes... I just put a limiter on my master. That is the worst thing you can do.

I actually keep my busses at low volume and put a gained up limiter on the master. If it clips I turn down the gain, but my ears and speakers are still protected.

no

Probably shouldn't shoot down really intelligent ideas so quickly. Unless you don't consider protecting your speakers and ears from errant feedback, glitches and buffer overruns intelligent. I'd be doing the same if Reaper didn't have a built in mechanism that mutes a buss once it exceeds a certain threshold.

Master limiter ^

@Triphosphate: Can you post a like to your mixing tutorial.. heard some really useful things on it. I wanna watch it agian. c(:

Icetickle wrote:@Triphosphate: Can you post a like to your mixing tutorial.. heard some really useful things on it. I wanna watch it agian. c(:

I'm excited about a new video on compression and its applications that I'll be uploading tonight. Thanks for the love.