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Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:00 pm
by CreamLord
Tbh the general population will forget about this by the end of the month

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:18 pm
by OGLemon
jesslem wrote:
jaydot wrote:
Trainrek wrote:
jaydot wrote: it's just the nature of society and the way the world works..
the fact that immigration exists, and someone better qualified and harder working than you being more employable is just the nature of society, and the way the world works.
Often the only winners in the immigration thing is employees getting cheap labour, not the people who lived there originally as they get undercut on jobs and not the immigrants themselves who have to work for little money and get exploited. I don't think they really all have a better skill set-they don't speak the native tongue and if their skillset was so good their own countries industries and economies would be flourishing. Which they're not.
I don't think you get the message tbh.
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Also don't think you understand economics tbh.
Honestly I think Jaydot is a bit correct here. Immigrants usually sell their labour for a much cheaper price than the people who already live in the country. The businessman wants to maximize his profit margin and hiring cheaper workers is just another tool to do that. I'd say that a lot of immigration is the result of people looking for better economic opportunities than the place they came from. Don't blame the immigrants, blame the economic systems that force people to have to move to a foreign land in order to achieve a decent living.

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:23 pm
by RubyVesper
I expected to see "spikes" in people being anti-homeless, not literal spikes. What has this world come to?

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:41 pm
by ezza
OGLemon wrote:
jesslem wrote:
jaydot wrote:
Trainrek wrote:
jaydot wrote: it's just the nature of society and the way the world works..
the fact that immigration exists, and someone better qualified and harder working than you being more employable is just the nature of society, and the way the world works.
Often the only winners in the immigration thing is employees getting cheap labour, not the people who lived there originally as they get undercut on jobs and not the immigrants themselves who have to work for little money and get exploited. I don't think they really all have a better skill set-they don't speak the native tongue and if their skillset was so good their own countries industries and economies would be flourishing. Which they're not.
I don't think you get the message tbh.
Image
Also don't think you understand economics tbh.
Honestly I think Jaydot is a bit correct here. Immigrants usually sell their labour for a much cheaper price than the people who already live in the country. The businessman wants to maximize his profit margin and hiring cheaper workers is just another tool to do that. I'd say that a lot of immigration is the result of people looking for better economic opportunities than the place they came from. Don't blame the immigrants, blame the economic systems that force people to have to move to a foreign land in order to achieve a decent living.
yeah i was just bein a dick :lol:

my point is you only get your job robbed if you have a shit job in the first place

not like they're undercutting professionals by taking 40k instead of a 50 lol

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:56 pm
by test_recordings
GreenWaffle wrote:Tbh the general population will forget about this by the end of the month
Sad but true. Most people would be happy just the banning of such measures, as if that solves the problem.

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:20 am
by rickyarbino
Agent 47 wrote:
OGLemon wrote:
jesslem wrote:
jaydot wrote:
Trainrek wrote:
the fact that immigration exists, and someone better qualified and harder working than you being more employable is just the nature of society, and the way the world works.
Often the only winners in the immigration thing is employees getting cheap labour, not the people who lived there originally as they get undercut on jobs and not the immigrants themselves who have to work for little money and get exploited. I don't think they really all have a better skill set-they don't speak the native tongue and if their skillset was so good their own countries industries and economies would be flourishing. Which they're not.
I don't think you get the message tbh.
Image
Also don't think you understand economics tbh.
Honestly I think Jaydot is a bit correct here. Immigrants usually sell their labour for a much cheaper price than the people who already live in the country. The businessman wants to maximize his profit margin and hiring cheaper workers is just another tool to do that. I'd say that a lot of immigration is the result of people looking for better economic opportunities than the place they came from. Don't blame the immigrants, blame the economic systems that force people to have to move to a foreign land in order to achieve a decent living.
yeah i was just bein a dick :lol:

my point is you only get your job robbed if you have a shit job in the first place

not like they're undercutting professionals by taking 40k instead of a 50 lol
You effin what? :lol:

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:21 am
by rickyarbino
Also, 40k is mildly shit, and very prone to robbing tbh.

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:06 pm
by nobody
lol, I forgot you guys have loads of homeless people, first world country

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:25 pm
by rickyarbino
You guys have slaves tbf.

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:26 pm
by rickyarbino
Feel like your homeless people get more than spikes.

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:36 pm
by nobody
jesslem wrote:You guys have slaves tbf.
I wasn't comparing where I am with England :D

Just saying, first world countries shouldn't have loads of homeless people/drug addicts if they want to be considered first world (IMO)

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:45 am
by test_recordings
I agree. A report about how shitty poverty in the UK really is just got put out saying the amount of money at the top hides the lack of it at the bottom.

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:51 am
by AxeD
What country doesn't have a lot of homeless/addicts though? Hint: the answer is not Norway :)

I just noticed a spot with these spikes around here btw. Guess they thought.. it works against
pigeons, why not :lol:

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:07 am
by magma
nobody wrote:
jesslem wrote:You guys have slaves tbf.
I wasn't comparing where I am with England :D

Just saying, first world countries shouldn't have loads of homeless people/drug addicts if they want to be considered first world (IMO)
I think this is more a problem with your understanding of the term First World.

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:17 am
by Muncey
jaydot wrote:if their skillset was so good their own countries industries and economies would be flourishing. Which they're not.
You can't seriously think thats how industries and economies work?

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:52 am
by bennyfroobs
only just saw this thread. cba raeding it all



anyway

clearly a completely ridiculous idea, people arent pigeons

with the money they've spent installing these spikes they could easily put it towards something to HELP homeless people. maybe create some shelters somewhere or something.

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:31 pm
by ezza
jesslem wrote:
Agent 47 wrote: yeah i was just bein a dick :lol:

my point is you only get your job robbed if you have a shit job in the first place

not like they're undercutting professionals by taking 40k instead of a 50 lol
You effin what? :lol:
you only get your job robbed if you have a shit job in the first place

u dont hear about immigrants stealing jobs for like 100k a year cus they'll work cheaper :lol:

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:32 pm
by ezza
dont be a poor person with a shit wage basically, u have only yourself to blame

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:01 pm
by jaydot
Most immigrants aren't even that hard working. Polish and that's about it. But lis that's expolitation. Plus they get a better standard of living out of it. So fair deal imo.

Re: Anti homeless 'spikes'

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:15 pm
by OGLemon
:lol: