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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:12 am
by dj $hy
Personally itÂ’s not my style

But,

I like the beat although a bit repetitive, some break downs or a few fillÂ’s to step it up n down.

Electro stab sounds nice but low is gone to quick but sounds nice when back at 3mins. Not keen one that science vocal tho, to loud at points.

But it rolls nice

My opinion

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:45 am
by dubmugga
nice one $hy...

...the science vocal is david lynch talking bout transcendental meditation and you're right it coulda been compressed more

not to everyones style but you can't please everybody...

...structurally we still think in terms of blending our tunes with other peoples in a mix rather than stand alone tunes and trying different things to develop our own unique sound. It doesn't have to fit a format or even make sense

yeah sorry, me being mean isn't neccessary but sometimes you gotta be cruel to be kind...

...and you gotta be able to take the criticism with the praise, roll with it and get better for having it pointed out

cheers and peace...

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:06 am
by nirz
I really like that tune from 3minutes in onwards what precedes it is too long... and $hy is right about the vocal too...I also like the filtering towards is the end.. Im not sure i like the beat though it needs to shift more from that magic 3minute point.. It aint the absolutely jawdropping tune i was expecting to hear though...

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:52 am
by dj $hy
David Lynch lol Not sure if its to loud or compressed to much, sound like its going up and down which would say to me to much compression. But I just didnt think it added much to the track. The other bits and the bird but suit it but that one just jumps in.

Your style is what its all about, your not making tracks for other ppl its your take on the sound and its important that you dont lose your style just cos someone dont like it.

Peace indeed, is the season to be jolly!

Forget about it m8

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:35 am
by j_j
re;dubmugga
i didtn like it at all ,it sounds like a dodgy breakbeat track from the early 90's .david lynch or stephen hawking did u say ?,its nowhere near grime /dubstep or nething close to being any good in my opinion .the drums sound shit.and it jus kinda rolls .i think it would hav been better if the first 8 bars as an intro led to the next 8 bars being the outro.
jus my opinion .

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:56 pm
by omen
dubmugga is a little tit id love 2 hear 1 of your beats u tool

this lad is only tryin 2 make a tune an u go all out like your sik so wens your 1st dub release NOB ED

think u shud leave this forum coz u on ly piss everyone off

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:02 pm
by nirz
fe MR.messer ... I didnt claim those toons i posted were dubstep .. but its clearly the direction im moving in with my tunes...... dark and slow .. im working on a couple tings at the minute I'll post em up when they are done

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:52 pm
by dubmugga
coldtap - HELL SCIENCE DEPT
http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0SC7 ... ABJFB0KL94

reloaded as it 's as close to dubstep as we're ever going to get or want to get...

BTW Nirz, we're saving all our jaw droppers for an album and i can't figure out if omen is talking to me or the other fellow

hope it's not me but i'd just like to say anyway, that if anyone gets pissed off over internet trash talk then they probably need to get outdoors a bit more...

cheers for the feedback guys. Was never really happy with winter mourning but when the weed wears off and you're sick of the tune it's time to move on

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:46 pm
by dj $hy
omen wrote:dubmugga is a little tit id love 2 hear 1 of your beats u tool

this lad is only tryin 2 make a tune an u go all out like your sik so wens your 1st dub release NOB ED

think u shud leave this forum coz u on ly piss everyone off
Looks like Omens chattin bout you!

BUT

See what you got from some positive feedback, thats what its all about!

For ppl who go as far as finding this site, then lovin the music and then making it means we need to help each other on cos thats how a scene grows, support!

Anyway nuff of the beef, let chat bout the music init

Peace

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:34 am
by dubmugga
^^^oh right you are

...well in that case i'd love to hear what omen thinks of coldtap

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:53 am
by doomstep
dubmugga wrote:we're gonna save em up and shop an album instead
What did the album do dubmugga ? musta been bad for you to sick the jacks on it ... :wink:

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:00 am
by dubmugga
...sick the jacks :?

is that some charming ossie colloquialism that no one else in the entire world understands...

...or is it just me ???

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:33 am
by j_j
no he means like the rest of us who the fuck r u ?
i never seen u play dubs at at rave ,i never heard one of ur tracks get wheeled ,i never even heard of you oin radio or gettin shouts ?? but u go on like some fucking god of dubstep.we post beats on here as amateurs as im sure u r aware u were once a amateur too before youre godly departure into the dubstep heavens,so why the devastating critique everytime ,tbh thought ur beat was fucking shit ,i knwo 17 yr old kids that make beats on ejay and ps2 thatd murk that mate.wake up were all jus havin gfun over here.have u even been to london to a rave??i doubt it cuz u have no idea about any iof this shit bro.
l8r

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:19 am
by dubmugga
I didn't realise making music was all about playing dubs at raves or getting your trax wheeled...

...sounds like fun, can't wait

I guess we're just too busy shaggin sheep down in lil ol New Zealand to know good music when we hear it or make it...

...you're a funny tnuc J, but i like your attitude

keep up the good work...

:shock:

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:23 am
by j_j
it aint bruv its a about having the right attitude !
n im funny ,but i aint a tnuc .
safe yeh

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:31 am
by dubmugga
^^^...do you like angry sex or happy sex ???

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:33 am
by j_j
lol
ur a dick head mate.

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:54 am
by andythetwig
the original links are dead now... Thankyou everyone that offered positive advice and to dubmugga for keeping the thread alive ;)

If anyone's curious to know how this tune finished up, this is it...

Bleeps & Whirrs - BIG BOTTOM!

it's not dubstep anymore. It turned into a kind of syncopated halfstep breakbeat a bit like macabre unit's "lift off" (but not as good :)). There are a few bars of dubby beats in the breakdown, so I can still get away with posting it here...

I think dubstep is "serious" music and I found it really hard to keep the mood sombre :)

I don't know if you think it's good enough to play out, but if anyone wants a full quality version you're welcome to PM me and I'll send you the link to download it...

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:58 am
by dubmugga
^^^top effort, the invoice is in the mail :)

yeah, some of it is serious but a lot of it is also just stupidly good dance music...

...depends what emotion it is you're trying to capture and where it is you're trying to project it :D

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:27 pm
by fubar
nice work andy, really liking the beat programming maybe the bass/synth line is a bit repetetive, not sure, but its a huge improvement, liking it 8)