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selector.dub.u wrote:
A good agent would prob want to know if it is a legitimate query or not before getting into a discussion of fees. It seems that many people have no idea what agents have to deal with especially with more well known artists.
agreed,Dub boy wrote:Interesting read....
The net is not the place to discuss dj fee's tho.
disagree entirelyDub boy wrote:One thing promoters can all agree on is agents are money grabbing c**nts I know its their job to do that but they are unneccessary middle men who earn their cash for doin very little. I hate dealing with them but they seem unavoidable alot of the time.
You are a king among men.gravious wrote:I think that its safe to say we have now answered the question in the thread title:Shonky wrote:I got paid £100 on new years eve, taxi to and from the venue and free booze and drugs all evening (and god knows I caned that hospitality).
Shonky is the worlds' highest paid DJ.
Doesn't matter if they only pay you a tenner as long as you're high as fuck! Yeeehaw
Now lets lock this mother and go home...
Thisprovost wrote:agreed,Dub boy wrote:Interesting read....
The net is not the place to discuss dj fee's tho.
but for some reason this thread feels awkward and disrespectful: djs are not hoes, they're artists. their fee should remain a private transaction between the artist and the promoter and the fee itself should be based on the specific individual performance in question.
it's really up to the dj to decide how much he or she would like to be paid for their time and effort. they obviously take into account things like "how far do i have to travel? how long am i gonna play for? etc" but should also take into account things like how much a certain gig will boost their profile or help them further, give them a chance to work with other producers or promoter in the future, for example.
disagree entirelyDub boy wrote:One thing promoters can all agree on is agents are money grabbing c**nts I know its their job to do that but they are unneccessary middle men who earn their cash for doin very little. I hate dealing with them but they seem unavoidable alot of the time.
good agents earn their fees through good honest work - their job is to make both the promoter's and the artist's lives easier by ensuring that the artist gets to the show on time and without delay. agents have to build relationships with promoter's to get their artists repeat bookings but also have to protect them from shady wanna-be promoters who don't know how to run or properly organise an event
also, agents are not pimps! at the end of the day, it's the artist who decides how much their fee should be for any particular gig.
the best agents work hard for their people e.g booking last-minute replacement flights when the T5 disaster happens, chasing embassies all day for visas, making sure a stand-in dj arrives if someone falls sick etc etc
the best promoters imo are the ones who realise this and do their best to look after the artists they book. if the artist enjoys himself, you can be sure he'll tell his agent and his mates too. he'll want to be booked again, he may even consider taking that gig over something less interesting that may pay more.
it sound like you've had a bad experience somewhere along the line but you shouldn't let it cloud your outlook - if you do, you'll end up missing out
when you should be trying postively to work with the agents and not avoid them
Stench, when jman put on that night in deal i heard nothing but good things about you bruv, lol big ups!Stenchman wrote:money is evil, look how its made u all argue. At the end of the day i see the positive and negative in this thread, there was a good enuff reason he was asking (to find out if it would b viable travelling around dj'ing) maybe a request for a pm would have been a bit more subtle but u cant hate for his curiousity. As someone without an agent myself id quite like to know what other ppl charge to see if i am being unreasonale in my quotes or selling myself short, as a rule of thumb tho i normally just add up how much it will cost for travel, a hotel if i need, and enuff to get me fucking smashed! obvs in an ideal world we would all do it for free for the love of the music, but the fact of the matter is that money does make the world go round, and not all of us can afford to run at a loss while djing, i dont expect to become rich off dubstep but would like a little bit of money now n then for the hard work i put in, u may think im a twat but im just giving my honest opinion on a subject that has already caused a bit too much kerfuffle
so whats that a couple quid? lol...butcure wrote:1 Million Ameros.....
Yes my post earlier was unfair. Reading back on it It was quite a stupid post on my behalf because it's unfair. Ive worked with many agents over the years and most have been very easy to deal with. I think the negative experiences ive had were clouding my judgement earlier.Plastician wrote:Not really a nice thread.
And people shouldn't knock agents - they do a lot more for the artists than a lot of people would know about.
At the end of the day they're there to help, and deserve to earn their percentage if they do a good job in my opinion.
Don't like this topic very much.
i don't see how that works at allDJ Heny.G wrote:Threads like this will make me stay away from dis forum, it could only be sum1 that's signed up recently (jan 2008) that could come up with a thread like this, no disrespect tho that person, but i feel this thread is an insult to dj's who work hard in the scene!
provost wrote:agreed,Dub boy wrote:Interesting read....
The net is not the place to discuss dj fee's tho.
but for some reason this thread feels awkward and disrespectful: djs are not hoes, they're artists. their fee should remain a private transaction between the artist and the promoter and the fee itself should be based on the specific individual performance in question.
it's really up to the dj to decide how much he or she would like to be paid for their time and effort. they obviously take into account things like "how far do i have to travel? how long am i gonna play for? etc" but should also take into account things like how much a certain gig will boost their profile or help them further, give them a chance to work with other producers or promoter in the future, for example.
disagree entirelyDub boy wrote:One thing promoters can all agree on is agents are money grabbing c**nts I know its their job to do that but they are unneccessary middle men who earn their cash for doin very little. I hate dealing with them but they seem unavoidable alot of the time.
good agents earn their fees through good honest work - their job is to make both the promoter's and the artist's lives easier by ensuring that the artist gets to the show on time and without delay. agents have to build relationships with promoter's to get their artists repeat bookings but also have to protect them from shady wanna-be promoters who don't know how to run or properly organise an event
also, agents are not pimps! at the end of the day, it's the artist who decides how much their fee should be for any particular gig.
the best agents work hard for their people e.g booking last-minute replacement flights when the T5 disaster happens, chasing embassies all day for visas, making sure a stand-in dj arrives if someone falls sick etc etc
the best promoters imo are the ones who realise this and do their best to look after the artists they book. if the artist enjoys himself, you can be sure he'll tell his agent and his mates too. he'll want to be booked again, he may even consider taking that gig over something less interesting that may pay more.
it sound like you've had a bad experience somewhere along the line but you shouldn't let it cloud your outlook - if you do, you'll end up missing out
when you should be trying postively to work with the agents and not avoid them
See that wasnt so hard now was it ?seckle wrote:it's insulting that you'd bring up money , when nearly everyone in this scene is doing things for the love of the music.epithet wrote:Mods or admin shouldn't have an opinion unless it's qualified. IMHO.seckle wrote:ugly.
this is basic business savvy here. would you walk into a crowded pub and stand up and ask everyone how much they make?
epithet can say anything he wants to anyone and it can be ugly and unqualified, right? i just want to be clear about this.
heh and if you had been arsed to read you would have seen my reply toojuliun_c90 wrote:if you want to find out it's easy enough- just call up some agents. not that mysterious really. i'm sure someone further up these 7 or so pages suggested that but i can't be arsed to read.
i don't even know who originally made this statement from that mess of quotes, but that simply isn't true in a lot of cases. speaking from experience it's often the agent who wades in with an exorbitantly high quote in the self-serving interest of bumping up their 15% and in actual fact sometimes does the artist they're supposedly trying to represent out of a gig. if you can go artist direct it's often better (contractual committments permitting).also, agents are not pimps! at the end of the day, it's the artist who decides how much their fee should be for any particular gig.
fair play. makes for a poor thread but you know, sometimes life's too shortepithet wrote:heh and if you had been arsed to read you would have seen my reply toojuliun_c90 wrote:if you want to find out it's easy enough- just call up some agents. not that mysterious really. i'm sure someone further up these 7 or so pages suggested that but i can't be arsed to read.
