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Alright, so i've got all these bob marley acapellas and I really want to make a sun is shining remix but I cant seem to get the right tempo, like the drums and the acapella wont sync up. Is there something i'm missing here? or is the fact that bob probably didn't use a metronome going to cause me to have to use cubase's audiowarp on the whole song?

bildo wrote:Alright, so i've got all these bob marley acapellas and I really want to make a sun is shining remix but I cant seem to get the right tempo, like the drums and the acapella wont sync up. Is there something i'm missing here? or is the fact that bob probably didn't use a metronome going to cause me to have to use cubase's audiowarp on the whole song?

Try taking the originals of the songs and play them sync'd up, so you can get bpm's locked. Place markers at Verse 1, 2, and chorus 1,2, etc. Then try to warp them to your tempo.

Do t dj style, automate the fine pitchbending to move it back on when it slides off, techs worked since the days of Grandmaster Flash.

Basic is on the money man!

if your not quiet up to speed with he means tho you cud try putting the acapella into audacity and changing the bpm then chop it up!

but like i said listen to basic he knows what he is chattin about

kontrol wrote:Basic is on the money man!

if your not quiet up to speed with he means tho you cud try putting the acapella into audacity and changing the bpm then chop it up!

but like i said listen to basic he knows what he is chattin about

EZ mate, but its easier...

Like, use your daw, throw the accepella down... IDK if other daws have a recorder you can put on the mixer slots? In FL, we call that Edison... Put and Edison on the same mixer slot as the pella, sync the record with the play button... push play, then use the pitch bend wheel on the audio clip to pull the accapella back on beat when it slides off by slowing it down or speedin it up... Save the recorded version, reopen, maybe do the process again to fix the little rhythmic indescrepanies since this is a production n not a set...

Thing is... this whole process requires somethin alot of producers dont have, which is the fuck it just play the shit by hand mentality DJs are known for...

N oh god... if you have an intro, you might even have to use middle C to drop the accapella as if you were one of us hittin the cdj play... Ableton kids are gonna shit themselves when you tell em something might require handmatching... but somethin tells me, with ole bob, if you wanna do it right, thats what itll take...

if you have serato, just put it on pitch lock and match it on your deck-- record that back in. done that a number of times.

for more fine-tuned work... ableton all the way. if you have the orig. track, it's usually just easier to warp both at the same time by warping the orig.

or you could do what we all did starting, which is manually chop and move each syllable so that it's in time.

and holy fuck, that shit really sucks.

Or, even simpler than ALL of those things, run it through Ableton Live in Rewire with Cubase. You can use the warp markers to change the tempo of the acapella to fit whatever tempo you want, thus eradicating problems of sync issues

Sharmaji wrote:for more fine-tuned work... ableton all the way. if you have the orig. track, it's usually just easier to warp both at the same time by warping the orig.

Or, what he said basically

Job's a good 'un!


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The very first thing you should do, before any of this... find the original (or if you think you can stay on beat with the accapella, use that) and go here - http://www.all8.com/tools/bpm.htm - tap to the beat and then you will at least have the bpm to start with.

What I like to do with tunes that fluxuate bpm is to chop it up into sections - intro, verse 1, chorus, verse 2, chorus, etc... then you have the sections separated so that you can start them at your corresponding sections - it will be less work to warp those individual sections than to do the whole accapella at once, but still less work than chopping it by sylables (yes, that sucked horribly back in the day)

Instead of starting a new thread I'll ask it here.

I have a full length a'capella in ableton, when I go to warp it, it only warps the section around the marker. There must be a way of warping the whole track around the marker?!

circadian wrote:Instead of starting a new thread I'll ask it here.

I have a full length a'capella in ableton, when I go to warp it, it only warps the section around the marker. There must be a way of warping the whole track around the marker?!

I think your going to have to turn off all other warp markers except for the first one or 1.1.1

EDIT: right click on the warp marker you want to move> warp from here (straight)

herrr it is maaang

I'm struggling with getting the right sync with the drumbeat and acapella also. I'm using Ableton.

Any videos out there to show how to warp vocals as I don't really know. And I thought it was a case of throwing the acca. over the top of a beat and autowarping the BPM to match the drum beat. That's what I've been doing anyway.

it may sound a bit tedious but i literally go through the acapella bit by bit (having made a drum beat or using metronome to sync with) and pull up the vocals bit by bit with transient/warp markers so each bit hits right on the drum beat/metronome...i don't know if this is sounding really obvious or basic? im not too great at explaining things tbh but the results are really quite accurate

hope its helped a bit tho? (forgot to mention im using ableton)

find out the tempo of the original song(http://www.mixmeister.com/bpmanalyzer/bpmanalyzer.asp)

enter the tempo in the Seg. BPM section


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I don't know which version of Cubase your using but I've wasted days of my life trying to line things up in Cubase 5. First off don't place ANYTHING at the first bar of the sequencer. Start the song at marker 2 or 3 or 4 but never 1, I've no idea why but when you start playback from 1, Cubase seems to loose it.

So you'll be making little edits here and there in the middle of the tune somewhere and everything will sound perfectly lined up, and then when you play back from the very beginning (marker 1) the timing will be screwed. And it won't be completely obvious either, it will be small increments that your audio will be shifted around. Just enough to make you think you've lost all sense of timing.

Google this issue and you'll see I'm not the only one who's had this problem, also exporting at some sample rates can be problematic, I always export at 24 bit 44.1, 48 and 96 don't work at all for me.

DrastikMeazures wrote:I don't know which version of Cubase your using but I've wasted days of my life trying to line things up in Cubase 5. First off don't place ANYTHING at the first bar of the sequencer. Start the song at marker 2 or 3 or 4 but never 1, I've no idea why but when you start playback from 1, Cubase seems to loose it.

So you'll be making little edits here and there in the middle of the tune somewhere and everything will sound perfectly lined up, and then when you play back from the very beginning (marker 1) the timing will be screwed. And it won't be completely obvious either, it will be small increments that your audio will be shifted around. Just enough to make you think you've lost all sense of timing.

Google this issue and you'll see I'm not the only one who's had this problem, also exporting at some sample rates can be problematic, I always export at 24 bit 44.1, 48 and 96 don't work at all for me.

Wait, hold on a second, I just realized the issue I'm referring to in the post above only really applies when your ReWiring Reason into Cubase. This may not be an issue if your just working in Cubase, False alarm everybody move along, nothing to see here.