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Graduating in June...

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:46 pm
by curse
Option 1

Do a masters degree in International Business, improving my prospects significantly from a BA in Ancient History, but also getting myself into an extra (minimum) £10,000 debt?

Option 2

Save money, do a ski season, go travelling, then try get a job?

Ninja opinions? Any of you done/doing a masters? I'm just trying to work out if it's worth it.

Re: Graduating in June...

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:50 pm
by Motorway to Roswell
I'm not doing anything but 2 sounds like a better option.

£10,000 debt is a fair bit and travelling etc sounds more interesting/fun.

Re: Graduating in June...

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:54 pm
by missedthebus
either option 1 or preferably get a job, get EXPERIENCE in the career path you want. worth a million times more than extra qualification.

Re: Graduating in June...

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:53 pm
by kidshuffle
my roommate is currently getting his phd, is 60k in debt but says you can essentially make it right back.

Re: Graduating in June...

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:14 pm
by tr0tsky
1) Where will the Masters be from?

2) Every tnuc has an MBA.

3) The people who used to hand out the London Lite all had MBA, no bullshit.

Re: Graduating in June...

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:04 pm
by curse
tr0tsky wrote:1) Where will the Masters be from?

2) Every tnuc has an MBA.

3) The people who used to hand out the London Lite all had MBA, no bullshit.
University of Leeds. They have a pretty good business school. Also it's an MSc not an MBA, think you need 5 years work experience or some shit to get on an MBA! Yeh a lot of people are getting masters now because they can't get a real job so it's probably gona be more common.

Re: Graduating in June...

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:59 am
by sirsnaf
the recession is going to spit out thousands of highly qualifed people... i know plenty of ppl who cant get jobs and so are going back to do a masters.

i cant see the point in doig nit fresh after uni, if im honest. experience > qualifications. the number of times ive been turned down jobs because i dont have the right experience.... admittedly i dont have an MBa or anything, but i currently work with someone who has 2 BAs (1 form oxford, one form somewhere in germany) and 2 Masters (1 form oxford, one from london somehere) and is 28 and doing essentially the same job as me (1 x BA politcs & asia-pacific studies).

my plan from here is: work for next 18months to 2years, get experience in a salaried job (not a sodding £6.50ph temps wage) that give you experience, money to save and a good reference etc. then im going to look at a masters, realistically Leeds (as im here already, big up the LS crew) or SOAS in london, though if i can afford it LSE (want to do an e.asia poltics oriented masters)... want to start 2012... and travel during the summer ebfore it starts..

well, that my 2-3yr plan, whether it works out or not is another story :P

Re: Graduating in June...

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:50 am
by osky
also soooo many people have a degree in a broad business/marketing subject

Re: Graduating in June...

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:59 am
by tr0tsky
sirsnaf wrote:the recession is going to spit out thousands of highly qualifed people... i know plenty of ppl who cant get jobs and so are going back to do a masters.

i cant see the point in doig nit fresh after uni, if im honest. experience > qualifications. the number of times ive been turned down jobs because i dont have the right experience.... admittedly i dont have an MBa or anything, but i currently work with someone who has 2 BAs (1 form oxford, one form somewhere in germany) and 2 Masters (1 form oxford, one from london somehere) and is 28 and doing essentially the same job as me (1 x BA politcs & asia-pacific studies).

my plan from here is: work for next 18months to 2years, get experience in a salaried job (not a sodding £6.50ph temps wage) that give you experience, money to save and a good reference etc. then im going to look at a masters, realistically Leeds (as im here already, big up the LS crew) or SOAS in london, though if i can afford it LSE (want to do an e.asia poltics oriented masters)... want to start 2012... and travel during the summer ebfore it starts..

well, that my 2-3yr plan, whether it works out or not is another story :P

SOAS is the place to go to do anything East Asian.


Say hello to my dad for me.

:t:

Re: Graduating in June...

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:07 pm
by sirsnaf
tr0tsky wrote:
sirsnaf wrote:the recession is going to spit out thousands of highly qualifed people... i know plenty of ppl who cant get jobs and so are going back to do a masters.

i cant see the point in doig nit fresh after uni, if im honest. experience > qualifications. the number of times ive been turned down jobs because i dont have the right experience.... admittedly i dont have an MBa or anything, but i currently work with someone who has 2 BAs (1 form oxford, one form somewhere in germany) and 2 Masters (1 form oxford, one from london somehere) and is 28 and doing essentially the same job as me (1 x BA politcs & asia-pacific studies).

my plan from here is: work for next 18months to 2years, get experience in a salaried job (not a sodding £6.50ph temps wage) that give you experience, money to save and a good reference etc. then im going to look at a masters, realistically Leeds (as im here already, big up the LS crew) or SOAS in london, though if i can afford it LSE (want to do an e.asia poltics oriented masters)... want to start 2012... and travel during the summer ebfore it starts..

well, that my 2-3yr plan, whether it works out or not is another story :P

SOAS is the place to go to do anything East Asian.


Say hello to my dad for me.

:t:
whos your dad? i studied Chinese there, but then left to do politics & asia-pacific at leeds... maybe the best decision i could have made as leeds has suited me real well, however i would love to get my masters from soas, got alot of respect for the place

Re: Graduating in June...

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:10 pm
by hackman
sirsnaf wrote:the recession is going to spit out thousands of highly qualifed people... i know plenty of ppl who cant get jobs and so are going back to do a masters. P
fuck studying, start stockpiling food!

Re: Graduating in June...

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:12 pm
by sirsnaf
osky wrote:also soooo many people have a degree in a broad business/marketing subject
got to agree with this...

@ Curse - you say your degree is ancient history - why do you want to go in to internaitonal business? unless your keen on doing a very competitive degree to go into a competitive business world, then i wouldnt spend your time and money on it....

if ancient history holds your interest, follow that... there are careers in that field, and it may be more suited to you....

a qualification is only an asset if its going to take you where you want to go... in my view, a masters should be specialised, gearing you towards a field you want to be in. people employ experts, not jack-of-all-trades....

Re: Graduating in June...

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:08 pm
by tr0tsky
sirsnaf wrote:
tr0tsky wrote:
sirsnaf wrote:the recession is going to spit out thousands of highly qualifed people... i know plenty of ppl who cant get jobs and so are going back to do a masters.

i cant see the point in doig nit fresh after uni, if im honest. experience > qualifications. the number of times ive been turned down jobs because i dont have the right experience.... admittedly i dont have an MBa or anything, but i currently work with someone who has 2 BAs (1 form oxford, one form somewhere in germany) and 2 Masters (1 form oxford, one from london somehere) and is 28 and doing essentially the same job as me (1 x BA politcs & asia-pacific studies).

my plan from here is: work for next 18months to 2years, get experience in a salaried job (not a sodding £6.50ph temps wage) that give you experience, money to save and a good reference etc. then im going to look at a masters, realistically Leeds (as im here already, big up the LS crew) or SOAS in london, though if i can afford it LSE (want to do an e.asia poltics oriented masters)... want to start 2012... and travel during the summer ebfore it starts..

well, that my 2-3yr plan, whether it works out or not is another story :P

SOAS is the place to go to do anything East Asian.


Say hello to my dad for me.

:t:
whos your dad? i studied Chinese there, but then left to do politics & asia-pacific at leeds... maybe the best decision i could have made as leeds has suited me real well, however i would love to get my masters from soas, got alot of respect for the place

My dads the short, bearded Sanskrit and Hindu theology reader.

He's little. :)


When did you leave Leeds? Do you know Mark Boothroyd/John Bowden/Dan Edmonds?

Re: Graduating in June...

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:31 pm
by sirsnaf
tr0tsky wrote:
sirsnaf wrote:
tr0tsky wrote:
sirsnaf wrote:the recession is going to spit out thousands of highly qualifed people... i know plenty of ppl who cant get jobs and so are going back to do a masters.

i cant see the point in doig nit fresh after uni, if im honest. experience > qualifications. the number of times ive been turned down jobs because i dont have the right experience.... admittedly i dont have an MBa or anything, but i currently work with someone who has 2 BAs (1 form oxford, one form somewhere in germany) and 2 Masters (1 form oxford, one from london somehere) and is 28 and doing essentially the same job as me (1 x BA politcs & asia-pacific studies).

my plan from here is: work for next 18months to 2years, get experience in a salaried job (not a sodding £6.50ph temps wage) that give you experience, money to save and a good reference etc. then im going to look at a masters, realistically Leeds (as im here already, big up the LS crew) or SOAS in london, though if i can afford it LSE (want to do an e.asia poltics oriented masters)... want to start 2012... and travel during the summer ebfore it starts..

well, that my 2-3yr plan, whether it works out or not is another story :P

SOAS is the place to go to do anything East Asian.


Say hello to my dad for me.

:t:
whos your dad? i studied Chinese there, but then left to do politics & asia-pacific at leeds... maybe the best decision i could have made as leeds has suited me real well, however i would love to get my masters from soas, got alot of respect for the place

My dads the short, bearded Sanskrit and Hindu theology reader.

He's little. :)


When did you leave Leeds? Do you know Mark Boothroyd/John Bowden/Dan Edmonds?
ah no diea who he is, only really knew the mandems in my department.... Dr Hockx (very tall dutch guy - when sitting down he was taller than me when i was standing up... im 5ft 5'') and Prof. Fuerher (bearded german/austrian/dutch/european).... was there 2004-05, but i never got the hang of academic language learning so i left and moved to china for six months, learnt more chinese though grammatically i got worse... havent spoken any for three years now, really should take it back up