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Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:30 am
by legend4ry
for bass these days?
I'm not having a go or anything I am just interested in peoples opinion as to why they always need a mid range bassline as well as a sub.
I personally think that 90% of tunes what have a mid range bass would be 20 times better without it, I like having harmonic warmth from the melody/pads/other weird sounds in my own tunes and from the tunes I buy and play out - this is a common trend.
SO thats my personal opinion, whats yours?
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:33 am
by deadly_habit
all about what artistic vision you have in your head when you sit down.
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:47 am
by djake
just depends init.
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:51 am
by Basic A
Nothings wrong with just using sub the way you do it cuz, pure groove.
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:54 am
by legend4ry
I would like to set people who've only made tunes with mid-range bass a challenge.
Make a tune without one - and post it here, it can be like a minute long - just experiment with filling frequencies with other sounds - its fun!
And for the hell of it, I will make my next tune with a dirty mid range bassline.
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:07 am
by Basic A
legend4ry wrote:
And for the hell of it, I will make my next tune with a dirty mid range bassline.

Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:10 am
by green plan
I really like tunes with just sub, but I personally think it's harder to do 'well'. As in, if you have a sine then layer it with some mid range bass it is easier to feel like you have a 'complete' track. With just sub you need to do more to add warmth and interest. Plus the i-pod crew miss out haha...
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:16 am
by yong
green plan wrote:Plus the i-pod crew miss out haha...
I hear subbass on my ipod.
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:18 am
by narcissus
i like sub more than anything... i like it even more with some mid range... mid range to me is all about conveying energy, enthusiasm, boldness... i like to start a track w/ just sub, and get some spiritual vibes and peacefulness.. then when that's run it's course, add in teh mid range bits and set things off. that's just how i like to build tunes. it's all about what you want to express.
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:55 am
by mp3cdconverter
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Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:05 am
by tripaddict
real sub basses are inaudible more something u feel
thats why u use a mid range bass too
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:06 am
by tripaddict
yong wrote:green plan wrote:Plus the i-pod crew miss out haha...
I hear subbass on my ipod.
word ... some how that sentence is completely wrong
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:34 am
by cloak and dagger
yong wrote:green plan wrote:Plus the i-pod crew miss out haha...
I hear subbass on my ipod.
missed the point completely

Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:21 am
by nowaysj
agree re just using sub is harder. you're naked out there. If your groove is wack it just shows. always think all that bro stuff is just a flim flam, a shell game. You move the shit around real fast and no one notices that there is no real musical content underneath.
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:23 am
by legend4ry
nowaysj wrote:agree re just using sub is harder. you're naked out there. If your groove is wack it just shows. always think all that bro stuff is just a flim flam, a shell game. You move the shit around real fast and no one notices that there is no real musical content underneath.
Mhm, seems most people are saying - in a very devious way "I use it cause I can't be bothered to make groove" its a shame yo.
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:36 am
by breakbait
all my tunes are pretty much just sub, i'll have some new bits up soon. it's been a bit long..
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:12 pm
by back2onett
I think tunes with just a sub are a little dry, don't get me wrong some people can use sub bass on its own and it sounds great, I just think it adds some colour when you've got something else going on further up the freq spectrum. I can't imagine making a t une without sub bass but I always layer it on top of everything else. I'd be up for trying a song with no mids though just to see how it goes
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:59 pm
by gnome
I can't write a sequence using sub bass. I only feel it sounds good on root c so I stick to that

Which sucks because it does sound awesome
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:13 pm
by collige
tripaddict wrote:real sub basses are inaudible more something u feel
thats why u use a mid range bass too
The human ear can hear down to 20hz.
Re: Whats wrong with just using sub
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:19 pm
by djake
yea its just 20Hz has to be very loud for us to be able to hear it, if i remember my acoustic classes at college correctly.
i could be wrong i never really payed much attention.