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Hi

Im having trouble figuring the drum pattern out for this track. Im a big fan of Joker and hopefully going to see him at Cream fields. I need to re-create the beat for a quick track im doing at college. Im not being marked on the beat or anything I just want to put the beat into Logic then I'll customise it.

Thanks for any Help

DeadMath

DeadMath wrote:Hi

Im having trouble figuring the drum pattern out for this track. Im a big fan of Joker and hopefully going to see him at Cream fields. I need to re-create the beat for a quick track im doing at college. Im not being marked on the beat or anything I just want to put the beat into Logic then I'll customise it.

Thanks for any Help

DeadMath

If your using logic 9, why dont you turn on flex time, im guessing the track is at 140bpm. Then you can see the transients of the hits on the audio file, you can then right click the file and in one of the sub-menu's i forgot you can split the file by the transient markers. might be a useful guide.

there are also programs that let you convert audio to midi. check out protrig.

komanderkin wrote:there are also programs that let you convert audio to midi. check out protrig.

Logic does this also

ableton too

Depone wrote:

komanderkin wrote:there are also programs that let you convert audio to midi. check out protrig.

Logic does this also

It does? So much I have to learn......

stappard wrote:

Depone wrote:

komanderkin wrote:there are also programs that let you convert audio to midi. check out protrig.

Logic does this also

It does? So much I have to learn......

Is this just 9?

marshy wrote:

stappard wrote:

Depone wrote:

komanderkin wrote:there are also programs that let you convert audio to midi. check out protrig.

Logic does this also

It does? So much I have to learn......

Is this just 9?

As far as I know flex time is exclusive to 9. I've only recently upgraded, not sat down and had a good look round at the intricacies yet though.


EDIT: dont even know whether Depone was specifically referring to flex time...

this beat isnt that hard?

seriously


cowbell on

1 _ and a _ _ and 3 e _ _ 4 _ _ a 1 _ and a _ _ and 3 e _ _ 4 _ _ _

^ those are sixteenths ( 1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a 4 e and a )


shuffley 16th note hats with varied velocity


sounds like two different bass drums (or just lots of velocity work) to have some grace note rolls into the louder main kick

on the 1 , the and of 4 , 2 of the next bar , the and of 4 on that 2nd bar

and a hitting snare on 3



simplez

stappard wrote:

marshy wrote:

stappard wrote:

Depone wrote:

komanderkin wrote:there are also programs that let you convert audio to midi. check out protrig.

Logic does this also

It does? So much I have to learn......

Is this just 9?

As far as I know flex time is exclusive to 9. I've only recently upgraded, not sat down and had a good look round at the intricacies yet though.


EDIT: dont even know whether Depone was specifically referring to flex time...

Wait, are you on about turning it into a new sampler instrument in the EXS24? or the option to take the audio, and detect its notes and convert them to midi, cause logic does this too, quite accurate actually with simple melodies. cant remember what its called, but it extracts harmonic info and makes it into midi for you.

SFlogic ninja does a tute about all that. Audio to midi/score, quite helpful really. And the cut to new audio file thing saved my life when I found it.

tripwire22 wrote:this beat isnt that hard?

lol, true that.
my guess though is that the op is having less trouble with general timing of the hits and more trouble with the groove thats coming from offset notes and different velocities.

DeadMath wrote:Hi

Im having trouble figuring the drum pattern out for this track. Im a big fan of Joker and hopefully going to see him at Cream fields. I need to re-create the beat for a quick track im doing at college. Im not being marked on the beat or anything I just want to put the beat into Logic then I'll customise it.

Thanks for any Help

DeadMath

What do u want to try and work out exactly?

It is all standard and quantized I think.

Kick and snare simple so will ignore that. He has something on 16ths that sounds a bit like a bell but could be 1 of a million drums in my percs folder. Its a simple pattern looped.

vulvavibration wrote:ableton too

Fruity too, I have to rep my boi.

komanderkin wrote:

tripwire22 wrote:this beat isnt that hard?

lol, true that.
my guess though is that the op is having less trouble with general timing of the hits and more trouble with the groove thats coming from offset notes and different velocities.

yeah its exactly that. I can kind of get the basic parts of the beat down but the offset notes and varying velocities have completely thrown me.

thanks for the information about being able to convert the audio into midi/score I never knew that and it will come in handy in the future.

Thanks Alot All

vulvavibration wrote:ableton too

Explain...

isn't purple city the one w/ all the doumbek action in it?

DZA wrote:

vulvavibration wrote:ableton too

Explain...

ableton has slice to midi function

heres a nice vid for work flow ideas on how to get copy beats its helped me extract alot of complex beats accurately...the vid is about triplets and its ableton but its more the work flow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRe4P8Mu ... r_embedded

Sharmaji wrote:isn't purple city the one w/ all the doumbek action in it?

yeah it is a doumbek huh? kinda sounds like a drum machine cowbell shot