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Borgore - Love; 1million+ youtube views
Borgore - guided relaxation dub - 1million+ views
Most DMZs videos - 250K

i know that the 'filthy' sound is flooding in from across the globe, this is good and bad.

It's has a positive influence because what started as a UK genre has spread across the world, showing that the UK underground scene is ever-expanding.
It's also good because it shows that the genre as a whole has evolved, developing different strains and styles.

However, i think that 'filthy dubstep' has turned ever-growing into a contest, who can get the most ridiculous, skull shattering wobble, the maddest drop,
sickest speech sample ect. And of course, the most grotesque comment. I think that people who name this solely as 'dubstep' aren't helping the scene. It almost robs the magic of some earlier releases, which were most about holding back, creating the mood, with a huge, warm sub-bass, the 'bass' that made dubstep. The dubstep 'bass', to many new filth fans, isn't a sub bass, it's a huge, earth-shattering LFO bass.

I have a few reservations about this; Dubstep is at the forefront of the hardcore-continuum, the lineage of the UK underground scene, which is teaming with history, i find this fascinating, the idea that such a complex sonic history has churned out these genres, from early 90's hardcore to UK Funky. Fans new to scene, purely listening to filth, may not releases this? Often the scene progresses by diving back into the sonic history books, cross pollinating genres, to create a whole new sound, dubstep is a prime example of this. 2-step and Dub rolled into one.

There is a plethora of labels such as Hyperdub, Hessle Audio, Applepips, Digital Soundboy with artists pushing the boundaries in other ways such as Kode 9, Ikonika, Burial, Breakage, Peverlist, Appleblim, Blawan, Zomby, to name a few? i've heard this sound be named, as merely 'Stoner-step'. Which i don't think is exactly fair, the production value is high, and artist try and focus purely on the music, rather than the image, which i deeply respect.

Thoughts?

I don't mean to sound as though i'm sniping down any filth fans, i'm sure alot of them do know the roots ect, i'm talking from my sort of experience.
I'm not trying to offend anyone, i'm observing, not commenting.

let it be, you can't change it

dav.id wrote:let it be, you can't change it

thanks for your intelligent input and thoughts.

People will listen to what they want to listen to. You cant make them listen to stuff they dont want to. If they arent open minded enough to want to engage other areas of the genre.....fuck them!

the same thread comes here everyday....If you don't look for it you'll not find it

yes. Next.

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Remember 'clownstep' dnb? you hardly hear that anymore , 'filth' is the dubstep equivalent. It will run its course and then fade away to be replaced by another style , right now dubstep is huge so don't expect any real music of quality or depth to be heard in clubs.

Input_1 wrote:Borgore - Love; 1million+ youtube views
Borgore - guided relaxation dub - 1million+ views
Most DMZs videos - 250K

Borgore is midrange so people listen to it on youtube, probably through default PC speakers. The people who listen to DMZ are playing it on vinyl.

Hell No!!! it is evolving beautifully, Mindri-I'll Be Good, CHECK THIS TRACK OUT!!!! HERES MY ANSWER

Yes 'filth' is ruining the scene.
I dont even class all this 'filth' stuff as dubstep

It's not ruining it, its just dumbing it down.

Without filth, I know a lot of people wouldn't find the stuff hidden away. Just stay with what you like and go to the events with like minded people and let the scenesters do what they do. Happens to every genre but we will still be here when the next new fad comes along.

Talking rubbish, one of the bows in the string, I smell a troll from 2008

NEVER base everything on youtube, i can get more views than Boregore just by using clever tags and giving it a name which makes people interested to click it. let people listen to what they want, because as long as dubstep doesnt die im happy

no filth tonight (see sig)

I like a lot of the "filth" stuff (although I do hate Borgore), yet I also like DMZ, Coki, Distance, Burial, Kromestar, Martyn, Kode9 and Joker to name a few.

Why is this such an impossible concept to a lot of people on here?

Liam92 wrote:I like a lot of the "filth" stuff (although I do hate Borgore), yet I also like DMZ, Coki, Distance, Burial, Kromestar, Martyn, Kode9 and Joker to name a few.

Why is this such an impossible concept to a lot of people on here?

This is the sort of point i'm trying to get across.

Input_1 wrote: This is the sort of point i'm trying to get across.

as if no one's tried before