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Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:11 am
by lowpass
Hi, does anyone know any good sample sources for Eastern vocals (don't know the name of the style of music, which is probably why I'm failing)

I've been looking on and off for the last year or so and never had any luck but I really need to get this one locked down I think,

In return I have about 15-20 metroid prime samples that I ripped the other day :D All labelled and bounced @ -18 dbfs

:t:

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:55 am
by narcissus
my friend, if quality 'eastern vocals' are what you want..

start listening to lots of arabic and hindu music.. bollywood's good.. so are muslim prayers if sung well.. just listen to lots of it and i guarantee you will find something good worth sampling.. look for field recordings too.. yes.. shaabi music is good as well

plenty of keywords there
the tip's free, i'm good on the samples

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:13 am
by Basic A
narcissus wrote:muslim prayers
you mean Sufi?

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:25 am
by symmetricalsounds
Basic A wrote:
narcissus wrote:muslim prayers
you mean Sufi?
the call to prayer/azaan gets used loads and isn't a sufi thing. arabic can generally sound pretty good no matter what shit they're on about.

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:50 am
by lowpass
Cool, I've heard of people using prayers before, a bit ignorant but I have to ask, it's okay to use that sort of stuff in songs? I mean it's not offending anyone?

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:18 am
by gnome
lowpass wrote:Cool, I've heard of people using prayers before, a bit ignorant but I have to ask, it's okay to use that sort of stuff in songs? I mean it's not offending anyone?
I tried to use the hail mary in my song. It offended the catholics....I got raped :(

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:22 am
by DZA
Easter Jam part 2? :o

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:27 am
by symmetricalsounds
lowpass wrote:Cool, I've heard of people using prayers before, a bit ignorant but I have to ask, it's okay to use that sort of stuff in songs? I mean it's not offending anyone?
who gives a fuck about what they think :P they can cry to their imaginary friends.

if they choose to be offended that is their problem, and to be fair if they are offended by it you can counter by saying they shouldn't really be listening to it in the first place.

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:40 pm
by 4bstr4ck3r
yep i think you have to search a lot by yourself to find what pleases you and is original also. I often use this kind of sample, but they are from many different sources: films, original traditionnal songs, dailymotion, field recordings, ...
The best would be to record someone doing it (i don't know, meet some traditional people).
Otherwise do your own samples with what you're able to find :wink:

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:46 pm
by symmetricalsounds
4bstr4ck3r wrote: The best would be to record someone doing it (i don't know, meet some traditional people).
i could record some islamic prayers n shit like that but i don't have a recording setup atm.

a good alternative that's just come to mind though, check about and i'm sure it's pretty easy to get either online or downloadable versions of the qu'ran that have a function where you can set it to read itself. so you get a traditional recording of the voice and a fair amount of that type of sample to choose from.

here you go http://www.understandquran.com/about-qu ... quran.html
don't say i never give you owt, although i hope this doesn't trigger shitloads of wank tracks using these vocals.

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:16 pm
by FSTZ
there is a series on National Public Radio here in the US called "50 great voices" and they have showcased some hindi, arabic and asian voices

I have found a lot of their tunes on amazon for $1 / mp3

use this as your guide

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =114013402

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:33 pm
by daft cunt
Excuse me but don't you think using prayers or Bollywood love songs lyrics just because it gives an oriental vibe kinda absurd ?
Would you wear a japanese tattoo saying "rice bowl" ?

Besides, using that kind of samples if you can't be bothered listening to traditional music is also extremely lame.
It's supposed to be representing you, not just sounding cool...

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:56 pm
by eops
lowpass wrote:Cool, I've heard of people using prayers before, a bit ignorant but I have to ask, it's okay to use that sort of stuff in songs? I mean it's not offending anyone?
In short NO.

Muslims do not like any type of iconography (hence no pictures in their mosques only patterns) and sampling prayers is a big no-no in certain muslim sects.

Examples - Brian Eno and David Byrne made "My life in the bush of ghosts" one track sampled a call to prayer - the shitstorm that ensued meant that the reissue had to drop the track entirely. Which is a shame cos its ace.

Also Playstation used a Mali singer for LBP - now in Mali its fine to sing verses from the scriptures but not so in other places.
Sony had to recall hundreds of thousands of discs and then re-edit the sound with 2 weeks to go before release.

Of course a random Dubstep banger probably wont attract attention but if it does it can get messy.
And while you could say who cares what they believe etc remember its important to some believers so why irritate them?
... choose another sample - preferably one which means something to you and you might even understand.

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:12 pm
by 4bstr4ck3r
@Daft tnuc: interesting point. Personally, i listen to many different traditional musics. I find them richer and more meaningful than most of the music we create nowadays. It's like they build complex sound architecture and philosophy (through codes or themes variations), but their executions can be really minimalistic and are felt as pure or real as can be human feelings or nature.
Now, the colors it gives to modern sounds is one thing, knowing how to mix or interact with is another.

You all have to listen to this sound and understand how it was done : it's the perfect mix between dubstep and oriental sound :arrow: http://www.iot-records.org/v2/index.php ... ail&id=206

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:33 pm
by symmetricalsounds
eops wrote:
lowpass wrote: And while you could say who cares what they believe etc remember its important to some believers so why irritate them?
... choose another sample - preferably one which means something to you and you might even understand.
freedom to sample things is something i hold dear and it's actually a tangible reality unlike their made up rules so in other words....fuck them and their law.



Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:18 pm
by eops
Well that attitude is nearly as regressive as theirs so I guess that's equilibrium of a sort.

But really your right?

I do hope you pay the artists you sample.

I mean fairplay to u but it's not about the rules it's about being polite.

I'm an atheist (lapsed catholic) but not a rude bastard who thinks the world owes them a living.

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:26 pm
by lowpass
Eek thread was not supposed to end this way :u:


Thanks to everyone who contributed, I will do a bit more research and actually understand it a bit more if I did sample this. I don't want to be that guy doing it just to sound cool.

Think that's it as far as anything positive goes, this could be offensive but it's just something to be wary of.

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:33 pm
by symmetricalsounds
eops wrote:Well that attitude is nearly as regressive as theirs so I guess that's equilibrium of a sort.

But really your right?

I do hope you pay the artists you sample.

I mean fairplay to u but it's not about the rules it's about being polite.

I'm an atheist (lapsed catholic) but not a rude bastard who thinks the world owes them a living.
noone owes me a living, but respecting nonsensical ideas isn't something i do. everyone is happy to laugh at someone that thinks the earth is flat, what makes belief in imaginary creators any different?

o and generally i don't sample. still though should artists get paid just cos you used a third of a second of their track? and just in case you think i'm being hypocritical i release my tracks under a creative commons license.

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:55 pm
by FSTZ
lowpass wrote:Eek thread was not supposed to end this way :u:


Thanks to everyone who contributed, I will do a bit more research and actually understand it a bit more if I did sample this. I don't want to be that guy doing it just to sound cool.

Think that's it as far as anything positive goes, this could be offensive but it's just something to be wary of.
I never thoughts your intentions were off

good luck and happy hunting

:D

Re: Eastern Vocal Samples

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:01 pm
by narcissus
hmm... i've used prayer before in sets/songs.. for one i think it sounds beautiful... also takes the music higher.. gives a spiritual vibe to it.. i feel if you use it respectfully, and people still get offended.. well shit..