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speed change with note change

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:25 pm
by DjPeanutbutter
Hey everyone, i was wondering if anyone familiar with sampling could help me out. When I change the note of the sample, the speed the sample plays back at changes as well. How can i get around this speed change and just have it play at a different note? I'm stumped.
I'm using Ableton but i can get other programs if I need to

Re: speed change with note change

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:12 pm
by Basic A
TImestretch and pitch correct/restore, should be standard on your sampler.

Re: speed change with note change

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:23 pm
by antics
Or you have to use a granulizer, which cuts the sample into little chunks and stretches all of those individually so it stays the same length, how ever it can result in a very choppy sound...

Re: speed change with note change

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:29 pm
by Basic A
antics wrote:Or you have to use a granulizer, which cuts the sample into little chunks and stretches all of those individually so it stays the same length, how ever it can result in a very choppy sound...
Why would you do that, when you could just timestretch with less-damaging computing, sensibly? Granulizer is a fancy effect, I dont see it as a viable means stretching things out though, but by all means, Im probably using it wrong...

Re: speed change with note change

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:53 pm
by flex vector
It's not possible to timestretch/preserve length in the Ableton Simpler/Sampler but what you could do is load the sample into 12 different slots in a track in session view, transpose them accordingly (make sure warping is on), and then assign each clip to a different MIDI note.

That way you would have the same sample at different pitches while maintaining the same length and be able to play them from a midi keyboard or the piano roll.

Also, depending on what the source sample is you could play around with the looping options in Sampler to make the samples sustain longer.

Re: speed change with note change

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:07 pm
by DjPeanutbutter
Ah, yeah flex that works. Thanks
Like the song, by the way

Re: speed change with note change

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:39 pm
by decklyn
really? there is no simpler way to do it in ableton?
holy shit.
what about kontakt?

Re: speed change with note change

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:53 pm
by flex vector
decklyn wrote:really? there is no simpler way to do it in ableton?
holy shit.
what about kontakt?
Yeah it's one of the biggest feature request for the Ableton Sampler. I used to wish for it too but now I don't even miss it at all. I love resampling synths and working with them in Sampler. I just make sure I bounce down a really long note so I don't have to worry about it.

I've never used Kontakt but I'm pretty sure it timestretches.

Re: speed change with note change

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:57 pm
by DjPeanutbutter
decklyn wrote:really? there is no simpler way to do it in ableton?
holy shit.
what about kontakt?
What is kontakt?

Re: speed change with note change

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:46 pm
by 3za

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Re: speed change with note change

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:05 am
by pesky
what about on the nn-xt? -t-