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vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:24 pm
by my_war
seemed as good a place as any to post this

Bought a couple of Gemini Tt-02 Mk2 turntables recently, and am having a problem whereby both decks aren't playing records at the correct speed, (this isn't a case of playing incorrectly at 33 or 45). All tracks are coming out slightly under tempo.

Any suggestions?

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:32 pm
by 64hz
are they belt driven?

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:36 pm
by my_war
nope, direct drive!

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:43 pm
by __________
If its anything like the 1210 then you can take off the platter and reach the pitch gain knob (on 1210 its clearly labeled) but I have absolutely no experience with the deck you have.
I fixed the same problem on my 1210s by tweaking the pitch gain...see if you can find it :)

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:55 pm
by AntlionUK
have you try'd turning them off and on again?

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:00 pm
by hayze99
Have you tried throwing them in the bin?

Haha, jokes - do what these guys said.

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:00 pm
by pkay
pitch may need to be calibrated or if you drag your finger a ton (or just hard) could be a weakened motor.

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:05 pm
by my_war
debating throwing them in the bin!

can't seem to work out how to calibrate pitch. records are playing fine with pitch shift +6, ridiculous to have to do this all the time though!

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:19 pm
by pkay
my_war wrote:debating throwing them in the bin!

can't seem to work out how to calibrate pitch. records are playing fine with pitch shift +6, ridiculous to have to do this all the time though!

how old are the turntables? +6 is crazy if you're talking pitch needing to be calibrated. Usually you're talking years for that much drift

Sounds to me like your motor may be weakened for some reason than drifted pitch

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:22 pm
by hayze99
DId they incrementally get worse? Was it sudden? Did you buy 'em like that?

Were they new or used?

If it was sudden, it was probably some random piece that died in the middle, and it's unlikely you'll get it fixed for cheap. If it's incremental, even quickly, it's probably something to do with the pitch or motor deteriorating.

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:24 pm
by my_war
so best course of action seems to be to take them in somewhere to get looked at?

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:48 pm
by hayze99
my_war wrote:so best course of action seems to be to take them in somewhere to get looked at?
Depends on what I asked, the alternative being throwing them away.

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:52 pm
by my_war
hayze99 wrote:DId they incrementally get worse? Was it sudden? Did you buy 'em like that?

Were they new or used?

If it was sudden, it was probably some random piece that died in the middle, and it's unlikely you'll get it fixed for cheap. If it's incremental, even quickly, it's probably something to do with the pitch or motor deteriorating.
They were used, and the problem was noticable right away. Others have said it may be a motor problem.

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:09 pm
by limb
I had similar problem with Gemini deck, well it just stopped changing pitch at all. I just bought a new deck.

I guess that's not much help

or very interesting

:4:

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:11 pm
by Sheff
I have gemini PT1000's Mk2s and one of the decks is naturally pitched down. you have to have it at +1.8 to get the actual 0% pitch
its long

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:12 pm
by hayze99
my_war wrote:
hayze99 wrote:DId they incrementally get worse? Was it sudden? Did you buy 'em like that?

Were they new or used?

If it was sudden, it was probably some random piece that died in the middle, and it's unlikely you'll get it fixed for cheap. If it's incremental, even quickly, it's probably something to do with the pitch or motor deteriorating.
They were used, and the problem was noticable right away. Others have said it may be a motor problem.
If you're bothered, take em to a technician and try and get them fixed; bonus if you can get the seller to foot the bill. I got lucky and managed to sort that scenario out, as I had the exact same problem. The bill was 80 quid, for a rather menial problem, but as I said, I got the seller to foot the bill. Might not be worth travelling about with them and then getting a gargantuan bill.

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:26 pm
by my_war
sounds like a plan.

can't see anywhere on the deck that i could get inside without alot of hassle.

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:28 pm
by AntlionUK
my_war wrote:sounds like a plan.

can't see anywhere on the deck that i could get inside without alot of hassle.
have you tried turning it over? sometimes they have a panel on the back that can be taken off.

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:31 pm
by AxeD
AntlionUK wrote:
my_war wrote:sounds like a plan.

can't see anywhere on the deck that i could get inside without alot of hassle.
have you tried turning it over? sometimes they have a panel on the back that can be taken off.
Don't turn them on when you do though.

Re: vinyl decks problem

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:33 pm
by my_war
yeah i think the whole back panel can be taken off, will give this a go!