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Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:54 am
by blazinaidan
So I can't tell whether I'm just really ignorant and nub status, or if propellerhead just won't let me make small value changes. So many times I've needed a value between whats the smallest difference in value you can achieve with simple mouse click - drag on Reason's knobs. Is there a way to make small, minute changes to the knobs?

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:27 am
by Sinisterbeats
hold shift and then change your values

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:21 pm
by blazinaidan
Really? Doesn't work for me, shift or no shift it's the same :(

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:58 pm
by Kodachrome
blazinaidan wrote:Really? Doesn't work for me, shift or no shift it's the same :(
Should be, that's how it is with a lot of things. Maybe you're just not precise with a mouse/need a better mouse?

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:00 pm
by Fused Productions
Yep, shift should work for you, otherwise try to lower the sensitivity of your mouse/controller.

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:04 pm
by paravrais
I think in Reason in the preferences you can disable minute adjustments so make sure that's switched on.

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:02 pm
by lyons238
yeah check your preferences. shift works for me...

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:33 pm
by jrisreal
oh wow...i have had a need for minute changes in fl studio. is there a way that I can do this Shift-drag thing or some other way to do this in FL Studio?

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:06 am
by lyons238
jrisreal wrote:oh wow...i have had a need for minute changes in fl studio. is there a way that I can do this Shift-drag thing or some other way to do this in FL Studio?
are you stalking me? im flattered :U:

lol jp

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:26 am
by blazinaidan
Hm. Shift seems to make it a LITTLE more precise, but even when holding down shift AND setting my mouse range sensitivity to "very precise", I can't get the specificity I want. I'm mainly worried about getting precise values of hertz on Thor's filters. Can you all get it down to the exact amount of hertz you want on Thor? Or does everyone who uses reason just have to settle with getting as close as possible?

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:13 am
by jrisreal
lyons238 wrote:
jrisreal wrote:oh wow...i have had a need for minute changes in fl studio. is there a way that I can do this Shift-drag thing or some other way to do this in FL Studio?
are you stalking me? im flattered :U:

lol jp
no lol :lol: :|

Were just some of those users that spend way too much time on DSF :w:

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:30 am
by nowaysj
blazinaidan wrote:Hm. Shift seems to make it a LITTLE more precise, but even when holding down shift AND setting my mouse range sensitivity to "very precise", I can't get the specificity I want. I'm mainly worried about getting precise values of hertz on Thor's filters. Can you all get it down to the exact amount of hertz you want on Thor? Or does everyone who uses reason just have to settle with getting as close as possible?
Bro, looking for any kind of precision out of reason is like *insert ridiculous metaphor*

Just use your ears. If you want precision, use any other daw. And even then, filter cutoffs and slops are notoriously unreliable. I was just demoing three vst filters, and at the same freq, and slope, all three sounded fairly different. If you REALLY want percision, I've seen engineering level vst filters that will give you pure textbook filter cutoff and slope. But why bro, why the need for precision?

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:43 am
by blazinaidan
nowaysj wrote:
blazinaidan wrote:Hm. Shift seems to make it a LITTLE more precise, but even when holding down shift AND setting my mouse range sensitivity to "very precise", I can't get the specificity I want. I'm mainly worried about getting precise values of hertz on Thor's filters. Can you all get it down to the exact amount of hertz you want on Thor? Or does everyone who uses reason just have to settle with getting as close as possible?
Bro, looking for any kind of precision out of reason is like *insert ridiculous metaphor*

Just use your ears. If you want precision, use any other daw. And even then, filter cutoffs and slops are notoriously unreliable. I was just demoing three vst filters, and at the same freq, and slope, all three sounded fairly different. If you REALLY want percision, I've seen engineering level vst filters that will give you pure textbook filter cutoff and slope. But why bro, why the need for precision?
Hahahaha, well I mean I'm using my ears for sure, the ear is everything. But I mean I can definitely hear that I'm missing what i want to get between some of the available filter values. You know, it's like tuning a guitar and having such a shitty knob that is kinda sticky from beer and maple syrup and just WON'T get into the right position. But I mean, it's not anything I'm gonna kill myself over that's for sure.

Btw thanks for all the replies folks.

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:46 am
by nowaysj
Your filter is stepping. It is good that you can hear that. If you keep up with that, you may start to hear all the other things that tend to make software sometimes less desirable, or at least hear the difference between quality software, and not quality software. I'll let you take a guess at my implications on that one. :lol:

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:50 am
by jrisreal
nowaysj wrote:Your filter is stepping. It is good that you can hear that. If you keep up with that, you may start to hear all the other things that tend to make software sometimes less desirable, or at least hear the difference between quality software, and not quality software. I'll let you take a guess at my implications on that one. :lol:
ay no dissin reason! :a:
jk :W:

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:52 am
by blazinaidan
nowaysj wrote:Your filter is stepping. It is good that you can hear that. If you keep up with that, you may start to hear all the other things that tend to make software sometimes less desirable, or at least hear the difference between quality software, and not quality software. I'll let you take a guess at my implications on that one. :lol:
Hehehehehe, I feel that. But I love Thor! I love it! I should really just go into more indepth vst hunting. I know Albino is similar but it just doesn't seem for me. Maybe I just don't understand it fully quite yet.

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:00 am
by nowaysj
Nothing in thor can't be done with another synth and some fx. But still, thor is the bees knees, with a little scream and rv70000000000 oooohweee.

Re: Small value changes on Reason?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:06 am
by blazinaidan
Scream is so great. Don't really make filth/grimey shit so much anymore but I LOVED (and still love) Scream when I was going for that sound.