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Who needs a zoot to make tunes?

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:03 am
by serox
Recently I have been finding it hard to make tunes without a zoot on the go:( Anyone else have this problem?

I hardly smoke weed but really enjoy it when playing with the buttons.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:06 am
by legend4ry
Hardly touch the stuff and when I do it seems to lead to very atmospheric stuff what I open the next day and find its just 9 minutes of pads with rawly reverbed drums..


I am a few beers person, personally.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:09 am
by COURT
bunz00t

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:13 am
by futures_untold
Any intoxicants fuck my head up and I end up staring blankly at the screen doing nothing for two hours..... :(

Na man, I'd much rather produce tunes sober, then enjoy a bifta or beer with some pals out on the town. :)

Based on the experiences of my drug taking youth, I firmly believe that music that sounds 'phat' sober will sound ' f***ing PHAAAAAT!' when your mushed! 8) :wink:

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:20 am
by cryptic
I went through a phaze of it, but now i tend to take 4 or 5 drags before then finish it off at the end lol

It tends to make me too lazy lol

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:21 am
by serox
I am not saying my music sounds better when stoned. Its more the fact I cannot enjoy trying to make tunes unless I have a zoot on the go!

It doesnt help that I work on computers all day so really cannot enjoy sitting down at home at all.

This is quite a new problem for me and I am no addicted to drugs btw.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:23 am
by cryptic
"GET THAT ZOOT ON GO"

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:26 am
by legend4ry
Serox wrote:I am not saying my music sounds better when stoned. Its more the fact I cannot enjoy trying to make tunes unless I have a zoot on the go!

It doesnt help that I work on computers all day so really cannot enjoy sitting down at home at all.

This is quite a new problem for me and I am no addicted to drugs btw.

Thats quite deep...

Making tunes is one of the only things I DO enjoy, thats why I do it, if I had to smoke a zoot to feel in the mood to make tunes I wouldn't.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:57 am
by serox
Legendary wrote:

Thats quite deep...

Making tunes is one of the only things I DO enjoy, thats why I do it, if I had to smoke a zoot to feel in the mood to make tunes I wouldn't.
Its killing me lol. I really am running home so that I can make some beats but just find it really hard to get into it at the moment.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:14 am
by cryptic
Serox wrote:
Legendary wrote:

Thats quite deep...

Making tunes is one of the only things I DO enjoy, thats why I do it, if I had to smoke a zoot to feel in the mood to make tunes I wouldn't.
Its killing me lol. I really am running home so that I can make some beats but just find it really hard to get into it at the moment.
Try another drug instead lol

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:15 am
by serox
CRYPTIC wrote:
Try another drug instead lol
Think I just need to change my day job lol. I am beginning to hate computers at work you see :D

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:20 am
by james fox
interesting thread - i smoked every day for ten years and have only just knocked it on the head. needing a joint to make music is all in your mind, best avoided IMO

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:24 am
by serox
james fox wrote:interesting thread - i smoked every day for ten years and have only just knocked it on the head. needing a joint to make music is all in your mind, best avoided IMO
It is all in my head. It must have something to do with the fact I hate my job quite a lot right now (working with computers)

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:25 am
by james fox
Serox wrote:
james fox wrote:interesting thread - i smoked every day for ten years and have only just knocked it on the head. needing a joint to make music is all in your mind, best avoided IMO
It is all in my head. It must have something to do with the fact I hate my job quite a lot right now (working with computers)
oh i agree entirely, i sit in front of a computer all day as well and often getting in and turning the PC on is the last thing i want to do

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:45 am
by powerpill
yeah i get exactly the same thing, fuckin hate it. the only time i can actually sit down and concentrate is sundays these days

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:09 pm
by pdomino
Serox wrote:It doesnt help that I work on computers all day so really cannot enjoy sitting down at home.
Same, been with Mary Jane for some time now anyway.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:45 pm
by jagle
i try really hard not too..

too many times have i gotten up the next day and listened bck to shit, wasting my time..
but i have friends who do and it works for them

one thing i do notice is the ammount of cigarettes i smoke.

easily smoke 10 an hour

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:49 pm
by serox
jagle wrote:
one thing i do notice is the ammount of cigarettes i smoke.

easily smoke 10 an hour
same. If I dont have a zoot going I just chain smoke cigarettes. Make a small change to a loop, light a cigarette and listen back:(

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:05 pm
by chucky0121
lol when i do it just makes me spend way 2 long on the drums and then it never gets done.

I no mates who feel the same as you do and it works pretty well for them though.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:12 pm
by sofa_king
I've been a pretty avid weed enthusiast for a couple years now, and I am shocked to say I have never heard the word "zoot" in this context before. I assume it's a Britishism? but even when I lived in England I never heard it. It's always good to pick up some new lingo. (On that note, if you guys roll paper filters for your joints, the paper you rip off to make the filter is called "splut" where I'm from.)
Anyway...
I get high most of the time when I'm working on music because I've found that it actually helps the creative process. It's easier for me to know whether a beat is working or I'm not feeling it or what. Gets the ideas flowing a lot quicker.
However, on the other end, I also think it slows down the production aspect a lot. Like it's really good for coming up with melodies but I can't really take the time to do the careful work of programming automations, tweaking shit, etc. So usually I like to smoke up to write, and then actually put a song together when I'm sober.
Word.