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automation
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:58 pm
by rickyrich
okay, so I have figured out how to make drum patterns/sounds and use a synth to make leads and wobble bass (though at early stages). But I can't figure out what automation is.
I see it quoted everywhere but have no idea what it is how it's used.
Could anyone give me a brief description and how it can be used in reason? I assume somewhere in thor you can do it?
Re: automation
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:30 pm
by manray
rickyrich wrote:Could anyone give me a brief description and how it can be used in reason? I assume somewhere in thor you can do it?
You can automate tons of stuff. A basic example would just be the volume on your mixer slider. So you can fade in the beat etc..
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:34 pm
by truncated
load a malstrom press record and move the knobs.
press stop.
press play.
done.
can be done for nearly eveything as far as im aware.
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:04 pm
by beerz
juss hold alt and click on the button u want to automate....thing that pisses me off is that u can hardly automate anything in the nnxt propperly
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:20 pm
by doomproduction
you will be so chuffed when you realise how much you can do with automation
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:26 pm
by tempahproductions
http://uk.youtube.com/results?search_qu ... type=&aq=f
automation is the key trust once u start u will never stop i never used automation for years after i played with automation for a few days i was useing it on everything
but u can over do it trust me
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:47 pm
by deadly_habit
http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14797
simple example using kontakt and drawing in automation on lfo rate on my kontakt wobble bass tutorial in that thread
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:51 pm
by tempahproductions
best kontakt tutorial i use my kontakt more then i ever have ur the mann
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:10 am
by deadly_habit
TempahProductions wrote:
best kontakt tutorial i use my kontakt more then i ever have ur the mann
i use shortcircuit and my akai nowadays
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:27 am
by tempahproductions
Deadly Habit wrote:TempahProductions wrote:
best kontakt tutorial i use my kontakt more then i ever have ur the mann
i use shortcircuit and my akai nowadays
yh i love the old sampler u have i had the Akai S3000 and a sp1200 coz the s3000 had more sample time then the sp1200 so that was to trigger samples from i still have the sp1200 but not my akai thou
but i got a mpc 2500
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:03 am
by truncated
TempahProductions wrote:Deadly Habit wrote:TempahProductions wrote:
best kontakt tutorial i use my kontakt more then i ever have ur the mann
i use shortcircuit and my akai nowadays
yh i love the old sampler u have i had the Akai S3000 and a sp1200 coz the s3000 had more sample time then the sp1200 so that was to trigger samples from i still have the sp1200 but not my akai thou
but i got a mpc 2500
oooh sp1200 sample pack please 12bit crunchy goodness
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:33 pm
by rickyrich
Cheers guys, I wasn't expecting the definition to be that basic.
I have not even started making tunes with reason, only been messing around with thor. Still need to work out how to record tracks and make sense of the sequencer (though I would rather not use the sequencers if I don't have to).
All I have done is make some tunes in garageband to get a basic grasp of production but it's time to move on now.
I plan to use reason and pro logic express.
I have used panning and volume controls so I guess I have started automating without even realising it.
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:00 pm
by Hide_One
On a similar subject; My micro-korg won't learn MIDI w/ Reason 4, I can use keys, mod and pitchbend bt none of the knobs. Works in massive and cubase tho.
Whats up with that?
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:41 am
by deadly_habit
Keggah wrote:On a similar subject; My micro-korg won't learn MIDI w/ Reason 4, I can use keys, mod and pitchbend bt none of the knobs. Works in massive and cubase tho.
Whats up with that?
is it sending midi nrpn messages or standard (have a micron not microkorg)
if nrpn it takes some delving on the net or say a device panel in cubase to ease the headache
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:42 am
by deadly_habit
Truncated wrote:TempahProductions wrote:Deadly Habit wrote:TempahProductions wrote:
best kontakt tutorial i use my kontakt more then i ever have ur the mann
i use shortcircuit and my akai nowadays
yh i love the old sampler u have i had the Akai S3000 and a sp1200 coz the s3000 had more sample time then the sp1200 so that was to trigger samples from i still have the sp1200 but not my akai thou
but i got a mpc 2500
oooh sp1200 sample pack please 12bit crunchy goodness
lol i just sold my sp202
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:28 am
by rickyrich
I seem to be getting on alright with reason.
Figured out redrum (was a bit of a pain), got some decent wobbles on thor (which I automated using record and editing manually). And automated volume on the lead synth.
Also figured out subbass but i found it harder than doing wobbles. Still not got the sound i am looking for.
Got a few bars together. The back of the reason rack looks crazy, I somehow managed to put reverb on the snare and another reverb for the whole redrum pattern. But it seemed to work.
I find that I am getting carried away using the compressor for everything. Is this normal practice? What do you guys use compression on?
I know I am chatting a lot but so much has happened the last couple of days. I think I am addicted to learning all this stuff now.
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:46 am
by deadly_habit
rickyrich wrote:I seem to be getting on alright with reason.
Figured out redrum (was a bit of a pain), got some decent wobbles on thor (which I automated using record and editing manually). And automated volume on the lead synth.
Also figured out subbass but i found it harder than doing wobbles. Still not got the sound i am looking for.
Got a few bars together. The back of the reason rack looks crazy, I somehow managed to put reverb on the snare and another reverb for the whole redrum pattern. But it seemed to work.
I find that I am getting carried away using the compressor for everything. Is this normal practice? What do you guys use compression on?
I know I am chatting a lot but so much has happened the last couple of days. I think I am addicted to learning all this stuff now.
compression i generally use for gelling a split bass back together or it's intended use
also sidechain for when i want that pumping bass/kickdrum sound
also for you automation geeks you might want to invest in a wacom tablet to draw in your automations all leet like
edit: btw flat eric is the shit
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:13 am
by rickyrich
alright guys, well i managed to put something together. It is very basic just a few bars.
I just used reason cause i just wanna learn that first then go on to mixing in logic.
But yeah i am getting some sounds, it's not great cause i still got a lot to learn about mixing and compression etc. And i need monitors big time.
but have a listen please, on myspace. I called it X and prob won't keep it on there.
And please let me know what the big mistakes are (i am sure there are a few)
cheers
www.myspace.com/dakertone