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Massive vst general question

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:14 pm
by teknophobe
If i have massive open more than once in a project it seeeriously hogs cpu, so i was wondering if theres any way of getting more than one sound out of the vst without having to have it running more than once?

Sorry if that doesnt make a lot of sense, but yeh i would appreciate any help or advice on how to lower the cpu or anything.

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:24 pm
by Brisance
Use a lighter synth, massive isn't THAT awesome to compensate for the CPU and RAM it hogs.

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:22 pm
by lewisr
Buy more ram or CPU.

Or, unplug the internet while you make tunes, turen off all virus scanners and everything else that uses CPU, I had to do that every time before me new PC

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:34 pm
by ketamine
"Even though Massive's engine is highly optimized for the latest processor generations and their SIMD extensions you might reach the processor limits of your computer. Therefore, Massive provides three engine quality modes which serve different use cases and processor generations.

- ULTRA for uncompromising sound quality (default setting)
- HIGH provides a very good trade off between CPU consumption and sound quality
- ECO for slower computer setups and multiple instances in host environments"

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... hp?t=42923

Change your setting. :W:

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:11 pm
by futures_untold
Or fuck Massive entirely and support indy developers like this fella ----> http://www.audjoo.com/Helix

Audjoo Helix is a sick synth, uses hardly any cpu and sounds better than Massive every day of the week.

If you're skint you can use the freeware beta version which is downloadable here ---> http://www.gersic.com/plugins/index.php ... t&action=1

I quote the overview of Helix
Helix is a Wave-Table-Shaping, Phase modulation, Virtual Analog, Physical Modelling Hybrid Synthesizer. Unusually high sound quality, massive modulation, creative audio-routing and many built-in effects all make Helix a synth easy to like.
Braptism! :D

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:01 pm
by ketamine
futures_untold wrote:Or fuck Massive entirely and support indy developers like this fella ----> http://www.audjoo.com/Helix

Audjoo Helix is a sick synth, uses hardly any cpu and sounds better than Massive every day of the week.

If you're skint you can use the freeware beta version which is downloadable here ---> http://www.gersic.com/plugins/index.php ... t&action=1

I quote the overview of Helix
Helix is a Wave-Table-Shaping, Phase modulation, Virtual Analog, Physical Modelling Hybrid Synthesizer. Unusually high sound quality, massive modulation, creative audio-routing and many built-in effects all make Helix a synth easy to like.
Braptism! :D
Hmp. (shrug) What the h3ll, I'll give it a listen...

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:06 pm
by ketamine
"All of the below was written about the open beta version, so if they contain the word free, or freeware, imagine they don't"

HA HA HA AH AH HA HA HA HA HA HA

wow.

that's some grade A copywriting / public relations there :7: LOL But yeah, it sounds nice. Very nice. :W:

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:24 pm
by clv
Brisance wrote:Use a lighter synth, massive isn't THAT awesome to compensate for the CPU and RAM it hogs.

yeah ;/

i have 4,0 Ghz RAM i sometimes massive gone down ://

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:16 pm
by diverse
So I am going to check that helix thingy out, looks good.

But back to the original question. Unless you have a super computer you don't want to be opening multiple massive's at once.

All you have to do is: just bounce down all your ideas into audio and then arrange all the audio in your sequencer. Easy as that, and that method also allows you to cut and paste all sorts of dif. versions together to make for the crazyness! :wink:

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:49 am
by thetaco
You don't need a supercomputer to run massive, just use the ECO mode unless you are rendering.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:54 am
by darkmatteruk
LewisR wrote:unplug the internet while you make tunes, turen off all virus scanners and everything else that uses CPU

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:37 am
by somatix
just bounce it as a wav and move onto another sound.....

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:44 am
by akilles
that helix thing is sick in the face

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:43 pm
by slug 187
Buy a high spec apple Mac

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:50 pm
by jah know
I run a scant 2GB of RAM on a single core processor and Massive will everything I need it too w/o f'n s**t up.

But yeah, bounce your track down to a wav file, always the best idea unless you're using it as a live instrument synth, then you're best using eco mode or buying more RAM.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:57 pm
by Brisance
Akilles wrote:that helix thing is sick in the face
Fuck yeah, downloaded the freeware version, just put 16 saw waves in unison, hit a key and BRRRRRAAPPP

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:02 pm
by futures_untold
Akilles wrote:that helix thing is sick in the face
The ladder filter isn't halfbad either..... :twisted:

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:42 am
by duskky
Akilles wrote:that helix thing is sick in the face
goddammit i really wanna try that thing out. damn you logic... :evil:

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:45 am
by futures_untold
Duskky wrote:
Akilles wrote:that helix thing is sick in the face
goddammit i really wanna try that thing out. damn you logic... :evil:
Try it free in Reaper! ---> http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t ... highlight= (You knew that was coming haha) :)