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anyone got a formula to make a mentasm from scratch?

I've made one by accident but it was on an old synth and I can't remember how I did it

any help is appreciated

this might help

Take a sawtooth, or even better: a lot of them. (So that means a supersaw on a track of the MnM.)

On a second track, put a pulsewave. Since we need pwm, I suggest you take the superwave pulse machine.

Now, put an exponential lfo on the pitch of both waves. The pitch of the waveforms has to start high and fall back to a steady value so put trig of the lfo on one and tweak depth, speed, etc. according to your needs. See to it that the settings are the same for both the saw and the pulse.

Now head for the sawtooth: use a lot of detuning here. unil to max, uniw to 105 and unix to 100. Dial in two subs as well: subx around 70, sub 1 around 95, sub 2 around 85. Also, transpose the pitch up to a full octave (+12) and ,very important, the eq settings: eqf around 70, eqg around 5

Then, the pulsewave: unil: max, sub 1: 120, sub 2: max. Now, tweak the pulsewidth...pw: -45...experiment with this setting, I haven't found the ideal setting yet. Eq: eqf: 90, eqg: 12


Add some subtle distortion to both waves, perhaps some mild filtering and crunch both waves through a chorus machine on track 3 to add more dirt and fatten things up.

Perhaps some extra filth can be added by subtly modulating pitch and pw.

cool

thanks Dza

what synth are you using when describing this technique?

good luck people have been trying to crack that sound for years

If i sound like a berk ignore me, but whats a mentasm? any examples knockin about to educate me with?

K_K wrote:If i sound like a berk ignore me, but whats a mentasm? any examples knockin about to educate me with?

Listen and learn young padawan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH21Ru---l4

Mentasm ~ Reese

PS: Fuck I love Techno, proper fuck off Techno

aka Hoover:

The original (mislabeled - the artist is Second Phase): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab-mViYje7g

Another classic "mentasm": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dohzrXT ... re=related

contakt321 wrote:The original (mislabeled - the artist is Second Phase)

An alias of Joey Beltram

But we wouldn't be anywhere if it weren't for Kevin "Maurice" (~> Reese) Saunderson's Just Want Another Chance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-uXuyKMLY

And even Cybersonik (aka Richie Hawtin and John Acquaviva): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEW0gdw7UxU

Caeraphym wrote:

contakt321 wrote:The original (mislabeled - the artist is Second Phase)

An alias of Joey Beltram

But we wouldn't be anywhere if it weren't for Kevin "Maurice" (~> Reese) Saunderson's Just Want Another Chance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-uXuyKMLY

Agreed - the actual song Mentasm was by Second Phase (which J. Beltram produced, that youtube clip was just tributed to Beltram).

That Reese track is hot! You up on this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c3oLiiO ... re=related

Managed to catch a copy on Discogs last year.

schooled!!

thanks guys

youtube here I come

Its a preset in Synth called Aplha Juno 1 from Roland, its simply called Dominator Its a synth with digital controlled Oscs and Analog Filter.
Beltram simply used this Preset.

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Its a preset in Synth called Aplha Juno 1 from Roland, its simply called Dominator Its a synth with digital controlled Oscs and Analog Filter.
Beltram simply used this Preset.

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Arawanadi wrote:Its a preset in Synth called Aplha Juno 1 from Roland, its simply called Dominator Its a synth with digital controlled Oscs and Analog Filter.
Beltram simply used this Preset.

incorrect.

roland alpha juno 2
"what the?" is/was the preset used.

Was just about to mention the Juno. Yeah get a fucking Juno and it's a piece of cake

Ok, Ok Alpha Juno 2 then, I once had this Synth, its great, has also a Great Chord memory Funktion

Eops wrote:Trainspotters corner -
The Mentasm sound actually first heard on the Mundo Musiq EP on R&S records on a track called 'Acid Pandemonium' a month or so later Mentasm dropped. Although technically Mentasm was released first and got all the props. Poor Mondo never gets the props

i would have thought mundo muzique deffo got the props with beltram
it was beltram and mundo that made mentasm together as second phase