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Shure Whitelabel vs Ortofon Concorde
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:59 am
by adam_misst
Which out the two is the better cartridge & stylus?
What do you have at home and what are the major differences in the two?
Cheers.
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:12 am
by kidlogic
Personally, I would go with the Ortofon... Ive only used Whitelabels a few times, and didnt really like them. They seem to be a love em or hate em kinda needle, whereas pretty much everyone Ive ever known to have a pair of Ortofons loves em.
At home I have the Shure m447s and love em. Cheap, durable, loud and they track great.
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:50 am
by caeraphym
Whitelabels tbh, Ortofon are over priced for what they are imo.
Also dv247 doing Whitelabels for £23, bargain!
http://www.dv247.com/invt/62977/
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:57 am
by serox
Shire win hands down.
Ortofons are the worse needles/carts I have ever used. The yare dust collectors. Even the standard Technics are better than the Ortofons ffs.
If anyone here is retarded enough and would like to swap theres for my Orotfons send me a pm.
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:59 am
by serox
btw these are the best needles you can buy. They sound better than anything else and they will also last longer. They dotn collect dust like Ortofons.
http://www.dv247.com/invt/8701/
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:40 pm
by rowett
i love my Concordes. rock solid!
(need to replace my needles though. hmm, shall i pay the rent this month?)
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:19 pm
by abZ
Not everyone likes the Ortos. At least half of everyone you talk to have problems with the connections. If you don't have a TT newer than 5 years then you will probably have problems. It is a design flaw. Pretty shitty to pay that much for a cart and have a channel go out on you every hour or so. Never had such problems with the Whitelables or any problem with them for that matter. They both sound and track great for what it is worth. The 447's are reliable too. I have set of each of all of these needles, don't ask why
Not into the 447's like a lot of people are but they do get recommended time and time again.
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:44 pm
by gidman
surly this cannot be right, they used to be like £150 a pair!!! is this not they price of a stylus??
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:48 pm
by serox
gidman wrote:
surly this cannot be right, they used to be like £150 a pair!!! is this not they price of a stylus??
Yes I think it is stylus only.
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:54 pm
by FSTZ1
I am very happy with the whitelabels
some people don't like them, but they work for me
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:10 pm
by gidman
Serox wrote:gidman wrote:
surly this cannot be right, they used to be like £150 a pair!!! is this not they price of a stylus??
Yes I think it is stylus only.
just read everything on dv's website and the way its written now makes me think it maybe for the whole cartridge! may have to pop in there when i get paid and get myself a set
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:15 pm
by adam_misst
Serox wrote:gidman wrote:
surly this cannot be right, they used to be like £150 a pair!!! is this not they price of a stylus??
Yes I think it is stylus only.
Read it properly!!!
Shure WHLB Whitelabel DJ Record Needle stylus only!!
I've got a pair of both but can't afford to keep them both so don't know which ones to get rid of?
Personally i prefer the whitelabels but i didn't know if the quality of sound produced from the needle was better or not?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:37 pm
by abZ
adam_misst wrote:Serox wrote:gidman wrote:
surly this cannot be right, they used to be like £150 a pair!!! is this not they price of a stylus??
Yes I think it is stylus only.
Read it properly!!!
Shure WHLB Whitelabel DJ Record Needle stylus only!!
I've got a pair of both but can't afford to keep them both so don't know which ones to get rid of?
Personally i prefer the whitelabels but i didn't know if the quality of sound produced from the needle was better or not?
I think it's a preference thing really. I don't think you can go wrong either way purely on sound quality imo. Anymore I don't even give a shit about sound quality because 99% of the time I am using them with control vinyl. Thinking about getting something with a cheaper stylus then get a nice audiophile cart like Grado or something just for listeing and ripping.
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:39 pm
by __________
i hate both but would go for the whitelabel over the ortofon
M447 is the way forward, though, seriously. any fule kno dat
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:02 pm
by thinking
i've owned Concordes for years and wish I didn't. Whitelabels track better, wear better, sound better, the needle visibility is better, it's not so easy to break an arm off...
they are pricey, but I will definitely be buying some Whitelabels when the time comes...
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:13 pm
by FSTZ1
I've played on ortophones that had the arm broken off...
what a nightmare
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:13 pm
by deadly_habit
i'm a shure man
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:26 pm
by abZ
FSTZ wrote:I've played on ortophones that had the arm broken off...
what a nightmare
One of mine is like that. Not sure how but I ended up with 2 sets. The black ones and the blue ones. The connections work on one from each set. The OE style is a better bet but IMO it kinda defeats the purpose of having those aerodynamic looking needles.
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:44 pm
by FSTZ1
and don't get me started with the shitty connections on the back of ortophons
gotta blow on them like an old nintendo game???
fuck that